Administrivia 10min, Chairs draft-anshuverma-bess-vpls-best-site-id-02 10min, Anshu (14:12) Jorge: solution well documented. but all problems solved in vpls multihoming draft or do I miss something? Anshu: usefull if you don't have the implem of vpls mh Jorge: would you agree that if one has the vpls mh implem, this is not needed? Anshu: yes Ali: what precisely does help convergence ? Anshu: if I bring in a pw Wim: vpls mh is WG draft, so what would be the need for that? If need a solution in this space, implement vpls mh. Otherwise twice the interop efforts. Jorge: we would burn a bit, maybe standardize this as Informational Wen Lin: agree with Jorge and Wim Patrice: if you care about convergence you should consider multi-homing instead of single homing draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01 5min, Robert (14:25) Greg Mirksy: what do you mean by "BFD session is brought down", also multipoint BFD does not have a bootstrap Rob: BGP routes are the bootstrap, just use admindown Greg: need to bring this to BFD WG (Wim, off mike): just stop sending keepalives Rob: we'll clarify this part of the procedures [discussion on BFD boostraping] Greg: the work on bootstrapping p2mp BFD session belongs in BFD WG draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-00 20min, Jeffrey (14:34) Ali, about slide 13 ("Segmentation w/ Untargeted Explicit-tracking C-multicast Route: Inter-as Example"): why not use a SMET route with an extended community, rather than a new route ? Jeffrey: we thought about it, but it's not good enough, ok to discuss it offline Ali: I agree that the procedures are useful, but we can leverage existing routes draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-00 10min, Ali (14:57) Jorge: should use these procedures for single active mh for convergence Ali: agree draft-ietf-bess-l2vpn-yang-00 draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-01 draft-dhjain-bess-bgp-l3vpn-yang-01 10min, Patrice (15:08) Thomas: fxc is not yet adopted, we would like you to consider an augmentation of the model rather to fit everything upfront Patrice: ok Ali: if straightforward to incorporate then it should Thomas: we'll consider that Iftekar: service tunnel notion should exist in the existing model, kind of a pw concept Patrice: we should check current yang proposal if it fits for evpn vpws Thomas: on bgp, might need to work with IDR Thomas: on l3vpn yang, as said we are considering to call it for adoption Patrice: ideas on how to progress Yang models faster would be helpful Iftekar: would be good to have examples, use-case configuration examples, to show how it will work Thomas: continue the discussion on the list Iftekar: example on how this is used would be useful draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay-03 5min, Jorge (15:18) Lucy: we are proposing an alternative solution Ali: are you proposing to not look at the mac or ip but only the label and do stitching? That's inter-as option b. Patrice: make sure to incorporate latest discussion points Jorge: yes draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-00 10min, Ali (15:24) Iftekar: what about single port use-cases? Ali: default case you need to support anyway Thomas: who has read? (6 hands) draft-heitz-bess-evpn-option-b-00 10min, Jakob (15:35) Tony: who is adding the PEO? ingress PE or ASBR ? Jakob: the first router to change the nexthop adds the PEO ; if the ingress PE were to add the PEO, it would also work Thomas: who has read? (12 hands) draft-snr-bess-pbb-evpn-isid-cmacflush-00 10min, Jorge (15:41) Ali: cmac flushing on per isid and bmac. why not use existing mechanisms with an RT autoderived from the ISID ? Jorge: still need an indication of isid in route Ali: I agree with motivation, not the solution ; the meaning would be "if you send with the RT of the ISID, then flush" Jorge: if you don't include isid, you'll flush for other isid Thomas: please continue discussion on the list draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00 10min, Greg (15:50) Jorge: I don't care which working group it should go, but BESS should be made aware anyway of that work. Also is there a mistake on the EL place in one of the slides Wim: I would like to see bgp used to bootstrap bfd session, to fulfil the promise of evpn Wim: discuss with BFD if bgp solution viable Wim: also 2 solutions for data plane described, single one is preferred Greg: of course Rashed, BFD co-chair: 2 proposals one with IP header the other without, needs to be clarified Thomas: WG and chairs of BFD & BESS will need to talk together