IETF96 sipccore notes by Brian Rosen Happy Eyeballs - Dale Worley Discussion among Olle, Christer, Paul, Roman and others on UDP and low overhead, low state signaling encryption to protect solutions from ALGs. Its a hard problem Olle: Let's do connection oriented first and then come back to UDP Robert: it is an error to reduce t1 on one side Adam: doesn't reducing B/F also cause lots of problems? Robert: lots of analysis needed to determine that. F might be easy, B won't. Action items noted by Jean Mahoney: Action: Focus on flow setup with separate drafts for each transport. Action: Roman Shpount to send to the list an analysis of DTLS. Action: Chairs to discuss updating milestones with AD. Reducing transaction timeouts is out of scope (Robert Sparks briefly had an action item to send to the list an analysis of reducing timers F and B, but this does not appear to be needed at the moment). The following topics are interesting, and need discussion, but are broader than happy eyeballs: - call/connection recovery - signaling encryption/ALG traversal - DTLS lite - Outbound lite