Welcome to Ops Area Agenda slide Benoit request from Ralph to present CASM is the second item Benoit - transition in the Ops Area Joel steppng down. - it was a fun ride somehow a good duo trying to do not to not that much damage years of service I didn’t understand before joining the IESG Joel Warren Benoit - CASM bof Ralph Droms presenting - CASM bof non-WG forming Abstract needs work on scope and definition Adrian Farrel - followup question can the scope be defined? Next presentation David Black - YANG in Redfish DMTF Converged Infrastructure Joe White speaking as part of presentation What is Redfish? Ideas in parrallel with RESTCONF In principle you could take the CSDL files and expose them via an outbound interface. john leung speaking kent - this work predates that standardization of netconf Benoit - very nice, what is your ask? Expertise on the YANG models? David Black all of the above interest help and advice. Joseph White - minimum for basiline switch as our first profile. Joe Clark - OpenConfig YANG catalog is a place to collect the catalog. Benoit - thank you, let me know if you need more contacts. Lets invest time in doing the right thing. Next presentation SIDRops - Chris Morrow First actual meeting 4 drafts being worked on and the charter is approved. Joel Jaeggli - Protocol works goes to IDR We get to mature and operationalize the results. Open mic Adrian Farrel - NETMOD vs OpsArea documents we just need to re-align the works Benoit - do you believe the clasification document in netmod is good to go? Adrian - yes ---- OPSAWG agenda - Introduction - Ignas Bagdonas Tianran Zhou WG status slide Agenda slide first presentation Zhenqiag Lu -export BGP community information in IPFIX Ignas Bogdonas - comments on messages size and type The size of the BGP message will be much larger than this soon so we should consider that On the community types, extended communities are used all the time Regarding wide communities you probably don’t need to be concerned about the econding Keep it in one document Wide communities - are probably a bit special. Rudiger Volk Deutsche Telecom BGP messages will get larger, not sure what concern needs to be taken about the size. Need to look at where the implmentations need the space for storing the stuff. on linecards datastructures on linecards will blow up protecting ipfix message size and the load on the transmission side may bbe a consideration. Joel Jaeggli - There are cases where you don’t have recourse to this information, that’s fine. Ignas - who as read this document? a few hands generally postive Next presentation - Elliot Lear - MUD normatively uses netmod acl model - get on with it Comments slide More issue Description is not internationalized - change to url Will call the question on the iesg list Should mud url be used for more than just mud e.g. anima Tim Polk - did want to understand if that problem could exist - yeah there is this sittuation (multiple services to exist) Kent - would it be possible to dole these out Elliot - where device is hacked we don’t want to to be putting out new certs. we want the assertion to come from the manufacturer. Mahesh - Cisco - the model (acl) as defined doesn’t work for cisco that’s why the model (acl) is stuck Elliot - you’ll commit to doing the work? mahesh - yes based on the discussion we’ve had Eliot - would would very much appreciate reviews. next presentation - the lifecycle of mud thorsten dahm Kent - security considerations text - worse thing that can happen is substantially worse then described Eliot - thanks for doing the drafts Potential for a bcp leave these documents open for a while until the base model is done Ignas - show of hands, who as read these documents? few will take to list Next presentation network artificial intelligence - druv dhudy Adrian Farrel - like your 30k view archtectural picture the two other arrows on the slide enhanced pce slide are challenge (how much data is that) Joe Clark - maybe I’m really jaded on artificial intelligenice. it sounds like that part of your plan but what you have have here is what do we think generall about analytics ? - we want the use cases bcuase the protocol may be different based on each of them ? - more tangible proposal on how to proceed Pushith Bragary - are you thinking of working with a specific control - maybe not useful for opendaylight but others may be more useful, storage should be considered also. Ignas two comments seems like a set of proscriptions or descriptions seems like more detailed design rather than archtecture is the ietf the right place for the operational feedback? Next presentention - carrier wifi calling deployment considerations - byju pularikkal ? - it’s useful compared to reading the 3gpp specifications Eliot Lear - you have to actually have the normaitve references for hotspot 2.0 Ignas who has read the document a few hands Eliot and here’s why? onboarding process Sri cisco - if there’s not much interest in the working group maybe ad will sponsor it. Open mic