Connection details ------------------ * Date: February 13, 2018 * Time: 8-9AM DST, 17:00 CEST: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2988507,1816670,5391959,5128581&h=2988507&date=2018-01-16&sln=17-18 * Webex Link: https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=mdde5e47d87e5077bd7f70da47a7ffae7 * Meeting number: 204 648 433 * Meeting password: 62YbPWpj (62927975 from phones) * Join from a video conferencing system or application * Dial 204648433@cisco.webex.com * Join by phone * +1-866-432-9903 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) * +1-408-525-6800 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) * Access code: 204 648 433 * * Global call-in numbers: * https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=410481357&tollFree=1 Minute takers ------------- * Ana Minaburo * Pascal Thubert * Dominique Barthel * Alexander Pelov * Julien Catalano Attendees --------- * Pascal Thubert * Laurent Toutain * Ana minaburo * Carles Gomez * Hao Wang * Julien Catalano * Jorge Gallego * Alex Pelov * Juan-Carlos Zuniga * Diego Dujovne * Anna Yankova Past Attendees --------- * Alex Pelov * Felipe Díaz-Sánchez * Ana minaburo * Dominique Barthel * Laurent Toutain * Carles Gomez * Ivaylo Petrov * Juan-Carlos Zuniga * Julien Catalano * Orne Brocaar * Pascal Thubert * Vijay Gharge * Orne Brocaar * Paventhan Arumugam * Paul Duffy * Pascal Thubert * Alex Pelov * Laurent Toutain * Ana Minaburo * Vanessa Valderrama * Dominique Barthel * Julien Catalano * Edgar Ramos * Carles Gomez * J Sanchez * Ramon Sanchez * Juan-Carlos Zuniga * Felipe Díaz-Sánchez Action Items ---------------------------- * Pascal: Make sure that tickets creation and update are pushed to the WG ML * Pascal: T2TRG move to first priority * Pascal: Try to make LPWAN happen Mon-Wednesday Action Items from last time ---------------------------- * Update SCHC draft Agenda ------- * [17:05] Administrivia [10min] o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing o Status of drafts * [17:15] Preparation of IETF 101 [40min] * [17:55] AOB Minutes ------- * [17:05] Administrivia [10min] o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing o Status of drafts Pascal: opening, note-well, bluesheets (we need your name, blue-sheets are now requested) * [17:15] Preparation of IETF 101 [40min] Pascal: The LPWAN overview will soon be published. Pascal: Ana, any idea on how much time you need to apply all changes to the document? Ana: Worked all day with Laurent and Carles; Need more time to apply all changes or create tickets. Ana: Missing Edgar and Juan Carlos' comments (also some of Dominique and Pascal) Ana: New version by the cut-off (March 5th) with most of comments done in the draft. For IETF meeting be able to discuss tickets left open. Pascal: please add discussion on tickets to the mailing list. Ana: Sending mail to the ML on every ticket. Pascal: action item: ask tools add an automatic mail on every ticket. Ana: some questions that were handled on the last interim - what to do with the tickets? Pascal: If the issue was already discussed on the interim, add the resolution to the ticket, close the ticket and send to the ML. Pascal: Timing: 1,5h for the SCHC over IP/UDP ? Ana: seems about right, somewhere around 15 tickets Alex: Agree Pascal: put editorials in one big ticket Alex: SCHC-over-FOO - 10 minutes per document ? Pascal: we need to check the document progress Juan Carlos: Sigfox - yes, there will be updates, 5-10 min should be enough Pascal: Julien, have you talked to the other candidates, you were willing to contribute Julien: No progress for the moment, but there are good indications to move fast Pascal: Be aware, that there are max 5 authors, if more than 5, there should be one editor, maybe Ana, and the other authors will be listed as contributors Pascal: ICMPv6 - Diego, update? Diego: will publish version for next week Pascal: the quality of the work is important for considering inclusion in the charter Diego: Remove ND, rewrite with smaller packets Alex: there is a document from Dominique Barthel, please talk to him to see how to advance Pascal: there are many things in ICMP, there are many topics to be covered Pascal: there could be several documents Pascal: the point in the meeting should be to defend that there is something to be done on ICMPv6. It's like a mini-BoF on this aspect. Juan Carlos: it's beyond the question if it can be implemented. It's on how useful this is. Not all the features will be needed, regardless of it is needed. Pascal: yes on this. Laurent: the work on the document from Dominique - it has not progressed since last IETF. There is a discussion on implementation. It is on basic ICMPv6 compression, no ND. Diego: implementation + specification was done in parallel. Every feature of ICMPv6 was mapped to LoRa, but can be extended into LPWAN. Pascal: the goal is not mapping features. It's doing something useful. Pascal: data model for SCHC Contexts Alex: Last hackthon, did something based on YANG Alex: write a specification about what we expect from this, ask CoMI or YANG people what they think of it. Juan-Carlos: Alex, you don't want to do that because of your chair position? Pascal: Shuresh(?) asked chairs not to do too much Pascal: if nobody shows up, could Alex provide something? Alex: Yes. Will do. Pascal: Minimal Context provioning protocol Pascal: same feeling: we need something. Pascal: Session request done for IETF101 1 session, 2,5hour. 1h15 SCHC. other documents. Rechartering. 90 attendees. We never fill the room. Conflicts to avoid: 1st: 6lo, roll, 6tsch, core, intarea 2nd: ace detnet t2trg netconf 3rd: 6man lwig rift cbor Julien: some info on the day of the meeting? LoRa Alliance Technical Committee is having a meeting the same week. Pascal: LoRa Alliance meeting is Thursday and Friday Pascal: try to contact the people to schedule on Mon-Wed Juan Carlos: move t2trg to first priority Pascal: Julien, would you come to London? Julien: Lora Alliance meeting should be in Europe (France), so it's feasible. Will come only if lp-wan meeting is Mon-Wed. Pascal: moving t2trg 1st priority AND requesting meeting Mon-Wed is risky and may not be compatible. Pascal: what do you prefer t2trg or Mon-Wed? Ana: prefer Mon-Tue! Pascal: with Alex to propose an initial text for the rechartering. The SCHC-over-FOO is already there. The Data Model and Minimal protocol should be next, ICMPv6 last. Ana: document on the RuleID management - what size, how to allocate? Pascal: Informational How-To document? Ana: yes Pascal: perfect, that would be great, please prepare a couple of slides * [17:55] AOB Ana: One of the comments coming over and over again: how to manage the ruleID. Rechartering: explain RuleID: how it will be managed, done... Pascal: HOWTO document?