Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?
Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Thu, 25 August 2011 17:35 UTC
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From: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:36:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?
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If we use actual *attendance* as a form of voting, Minneapolis would lose big time. According to the stats, since IETF-1, there have been 6 IETF meetings in Minneapolis. Every one of them had significantly lower number of participants than the meeting before and after them... except IETF-44 which was lower than IETF-43 but about the same as IETF-45, but IETF-45 was in Oslo, Norway, and IETF-46 went back up to higher levels again. -hadriel On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: I am also a fan of Minneapolis for meetings - the facilities at the Hilton are perfect for our needs. There's lots of food options. It has good air connections and there is decent pubic transport from the airport to the city. However, this seems to be a minority perspective. If we were to do votes again, the results might be interesting. Mary. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, t.petch <daedulus@btconnect.com<mailto:daedulus@btconnect.com>> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com<mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com>> To: "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>> Cc: "Sam Hartman" <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu<mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>>; "Dave CROCKER" <dcrocker@bbiw.net<mailto:dcrocker@bbiw.net>>; <ietf@ietf.org<mailto:ietf@ietf.org>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:39 PM On Aug 24, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Dave CROCKER <dcrocker@bbiw.net<mailto:dcrocker@bbiw.net>> wrote: > > > On 8/24/2011 1:27 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > Can you start by backing up the assertion that the community has > vigrously expressed a preference for interesting venues? > I may just need a new IETF community:-) > > > gosh, I hadn't thought that that was less than obvious, given the vote for quebec and many, many comments about venue choice over the years. > > I'm one who really liked Minneapolis - we had excellent meeting space, places to run into each other, reasonable food access, and a clueful hotel. > > Is it interesting to go to new places? Sure and if I'm lucky I might get a morning or afternoon to look around. Would I be perfectly happy going to the same 2-3 places every year? Absolutely. I am with you on that. I do not attend IETFs as a vacation and sight-seeing opportunity. <tp> Yes, I too go to work, and would rate Minneapolis in the top three, with Atlanta perhaps just above it. Tom </tp> --Tom > > Alia > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org<mailto:Ietf@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org<mailto:Ietf@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org<mailto:Ietf@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf <ATT00001..c>
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