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[20:43:11] Yoav Nir has set the subject to: IETF 95 - ACME Meeting - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/acme/agenda?item=agenda-95-acme.html
[20:44:18] <ron> is the audio stream not up yet?
[20:44:22] <Kathleen Moriarty> I'm online
[20:44:26] <Kathleen Moriarty> and on meetecho
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[20:44:36] <agwa> I'm getting a 404 error on http://icecast-ietf.conf.meetecho.com:8000/buenayrea.mp3
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[20:44:53] <Mark Donnelly> I'll be the Jabber Relay today :)
[20:44:55] <Meetecho> agwa: try again nowplease
[20:45:14] <agwa> meetecho: it's good now - thanks
[20:45:20] <Mark Donnelly> If you would like me to say something, please put MIC: at the beginning of your comment.
[20:45:41] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowl1A93E189> Does HMAC work, too? ;)
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[20:54:38] <ron> boulder currently returns a 202 for deletion even though it doesn't support it yet
[20:55:08] <Mark Donnelly> Ron: Was that meant to go to the mike?
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[20:55:22] <ron> nah, we can do it on the list.
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[21:12:38] <ron> we have notAfter, which could have a "critical" rider, or some +/-
[21:12:52] <ron> (but we can talk about that on the list too, if we've already moved on :)
[21:15:20] <Mark Donnelly> Yeah, sorry about that - the speaker had already started in on the out-of-band challenge description by the time that came through
[21:17:40] <JC Jones> [OT] … I suddenly have a new business idea regarding reverse mortgage paperwork and EV certs.
[21:17:54] <J.C. Jones> hummmmm
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[21:25:02] <ron> is there any good reason not to just consider the URI a literal string token?
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[21:25:25] <Mark Donnelly> Is that for the MIC?
[21:25:28] <ron> that gives us the guarantee we need without the complexity
[21:25:43] <ron> if there is room in the queue, yeah
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[21:26:57] <ron> that was why I suggested we still call it "resource" instead of "url"
[21:27:04] <ron> (on the list)
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[21:30:14] <ron> hand up
[21:30:40] <ron> I think parroting the literal octets the server sent is the right answer
[21:31:15] <ron> amen
[21:32:42] <whatdafuq> MIC: what was the motivation to reverse the order of signatures in roll-over? Seems like it used to "new making claim on old, old validating claim." Now that's backwards.
[21:32:45] <sftcd> yelling from the back of the room is bad form IMO
[21:33:34] <Mark Donnelly> is this answering your question WDF?
[21:33:43] <ted.h> @sftcd He's the note-taker, so leaving that task to get in the line would have otherwise result.
[21:33:45] <whatdafuq> yea, sort of.
[21:34:16] <Mark Donnelly> @wdf: Anything more?
[21:34:16] <sftcd> @ted: fair enough, but then please do echo the comment for remote folks?
[21:34:22] <whatdafuq> still seems backwards but I get the idea to be compat with MAC
[21:34:24] <ted.h> Ah, sorry, will do.
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[21:51:28] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowl1A93E189> Did you remote people hear Russ smacking the mic?
[21:51:51] <Kathleen Moriarty_1464> Yes
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[21:52:10] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowl1A93E189> (It looked like it would be painfully loud...)
[21:52:14] <Mark Donnelly> I think it was confused by the fact that the speaker did some tapping of the microphone too
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[21:58:43] <Mark Donnelly> (ekr agreed with Rich off-mic)
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[22:07:26] Mark Donnelly will supply the tinsel for decorating the spec proposal!
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[22:15:37] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> hummmmm
[22:16:00] <ted.h> @Jacob  What question are you humming for?
[22:17:27] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> Sorry, that was intended as generic agreement with what PHB is saying
[22:18:06] <Mark Donnelly> Would you like that to go to the MIC?
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[22:20:23] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> Sure, how about MIC: I think this is a good direction for ACME and would make the Boulder implementation cleaner.
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[22:21:14] <ron> fwiw I like a lot of what he's saying here too.
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[22:21:28] <ron> but it seems like a big question and one for the list :)
[22:22:48] <Mark Donnelly> Since we seem to be saving
[22:23:09] <Mark Donnelly> most  of the discussion for later, I'll skip these general comments
[22:23:15] <Mark Donnelly> unless someone speaks up now
[22:23:41] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> It seems like folks are actually still talking about it, and I think my comment's relevant
[22:23:54] <Mark Donnelly> OK
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[22:24:55] <Mark Donnelly> Sorry, I thought it was getting closed off faster than it did.
[22:25:03] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> no prob
[22:25:04] <eburger> And for the remote audience, remember to join lurk@jabber.ietf.org at 1400 Argentina Standard Time tomorrow.
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[22:25:49] <ron> eburger could you or someone post that to the list please (with details and zulu time :)
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[22:29:10] <ron> we already don't have a server that implements all of -02 yet :)
[22:29:22] <sftcd> wrt lurk https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/95/ and search for lurk - there's links there to materials etc
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[22:34:36] <ron> fwiw, I do have a client that implements all of -02, and this isn't sounding very daunting from the details spoken on it so far (but it really needs to be fleshed out on the list)
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[22:35:01] <Mark Donnelly> Thanks all!
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[22:35:09] <ron> thanks Mark
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