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[20:12:43] <cedric.adjih> (hi - I'll try to be scribe - sorry if some parts are misssing)
[20:13:04] <cedric.adjih> Charlie Perkins presentation: http://onsite.ietf.org/proceedings/05nov/slides/autoconf-2.pdf
[20:13:58] <cedric.adjih> terminologies...
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[20:14:52] <cedric.adjih> Q: definition on the local address? clear definition? what about hierarchical manets?
[20:15:26] <cedric.adjih> hierarchy -> MANETs within MANETs
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[20:16:47] <cedric.adjih> A: (charlie) we may not have the answer, and maybe this is out of scope of the wg, ... even if MANETs within MANETs are possible... is it necessary to solve this issue now (?)
[20:17:42] <cedric.adjih> additional A: one possibility, if you insist, is to have smaller prefix...
[20:19:09] <cedric.adjih> Comment: if you use the same terminology ("unique local address"), you should refer to the RFC, or not redefine...
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[20:19:49] <cedric.adjih> (back to presentation, slide terminologies [cont.])
[20:21:20] <cedric.adjih> [slide: problem statement]
[20:22:18] <cedric.adjih> ... some of the known mechanisms will be revisited (staless autoconf, NDP, DHCPv6) ..
[20:23:12] <cedric.adjih> ... none of the standards specifications describe autoconf in MANET...
[20:23:20] <cedric.adjih> [slide: problem statement]
[20:24:59] <cedric.adjih> [slide: problem statement (partition/merger)]
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[20:27:33] <cedric.adjih> Q: partition may be a problem, when you have gateways - you may have to reconfigure one partition
[20:27:42] <cedric.adjih> C: elaborate on this?
[20:28:07] <cedric.adjih> Q: scenarios = two gateways have the same prefix
[20:28:32] <cedric.adjih> A: agreed on further study (-> on the mailing list)
[20:29:00] <cedric.adjih> C: this problems already happens in current Internet, when an Internet cloud splits
[20:29:57] <cedric.adjih> [slide: Goals]
[20:30:34] <cedric.adjih> Q: question on DAD before iface configuration
[20:30:47] <cedric.adjih> Q: since you need to run the running protocol...
[20:31:15] <cedric.adjih> Q: to get an address... isn't it hard to meet?
[20:31:21] <cedric.adjih> A: (later ??)
[20:33:13] <cedric.adjih> C (comment): it should be mentionned how stable links are considered? (sleeping nodes?)
[20:34:06] <cedric.adjih> [slide: "To do?"]
[20:34:25] <cedric.adjih> Q: back to the goals, how many nodes should be supported
[20:34:39] <cedric.adjih> A: should be in line with MANET specification
[20:35:14] <cedric.adjih> Q: "MANET-DAD" may presuppose a specific solution... and there may be not a consensus (cf. previous BOFs)
[20:36:11] <cedric.adjih> Comment: there are other solutions if you consider all links are individual links, and you do DAD on each links as usual (?)
[20:36:31] <cedric.adjih> A: -> may be deferred to the list because of time)
[20:37:18] <cedric.adjih> *** Pr. Kenichi Mase presentation: http://onsite.ietf.org/proceedings/05nov/slides/autoconf-3.pdf
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[20:38:10] <cedric.adjih> "... this is not a solution but a general framework..."
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[20:42:31] <cedric.adjih> [Slide 10 of 11] - full routing is only in the "NORMAL_STATE" addressing some question
[20:42:49] <cedric.adjih> [end of presentations]
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