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[09:36:05] <francesca> Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=mf05c47a9a418179e3e810a151dcb25a9
Etherpad: https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-cbor
Session material: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cbor-06/session/cbor
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[13:04:08] <francesca> etherpad is not working for me... :(
[13:10:53] <francesca> New etherpad link https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-107-cbor?useMonospaceFont=true
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[14:51:53] <mcr> francesca, suggest you plan to start ~4 minutes late.
[14:52:10] <francesca> I think we'll have to
[14:52:32] <francesca> but I really don't want to, as we only have 1h scheduled
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[15:03:11] <Alexey Melnikov> CBOR chairs are good chairs, as they uploaded slides ;-)
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[15:04:25] <mcr> so, when webex/etc. on Linux (and I think windows) shares, you can select to share: SCREEN (the whole thing), Application (which shares JUST the box of the application, no top-Finder-thing like on OSX), or even just CHROME Tab.  
[15:05:52] <jimsch1> Yes - but that is where the menu bar on apple always is.  Stupid OS for that
[15:05:52] <cabo> Yes.  For me it takes about 20 seconds for Chrome to sort through my windows and show the selection.  Isn't that fun.
[15:06:27] <mcr> cabo, yeah, it can be hard to know from the thumbnails, which of the 27 xterms I want to share :-)
[15:07:42] <mcr> so, the bounding box of the "application" includes the entire screen because of the menu bar.  It should be possible to suppress.  Jay is finding out how we can file webex bug reports.
[15:08:15] <jimsch1> mcr & Carsten:  Do you want to continue your CBOR Classic discussions in the right group?
[15:08:38] <mcr> :beer::beer::beer: RFC8742 @->--@->--@->-- RFC8743 :music::music::music:
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[15:09:24] <mcr> Jim, you have, by fiat⸘ determined just above, that it's called CBOR Classic.
[15:10:09] <cabo> And in these 20 sec I can't talk
[15:11:03] <petereyee> Use Firefox. ;-)
[15:11:37] <mcr> ᗧBOR
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[15:14:35] <Alexey Melnikov> Barry Leiba: can you please update datatracker for draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis to mark it as replacing RFC7049?
[15:14:54] <Alexey Melnikov> So that people can see the diff since RFC 7049
[15:16:02] <Barry Leiba> One can't do that; the datatracker doesn't support it.
[15:16:20] <Alexey Melnikov> I was able to do that
[15:16:36] <Alexey Melnikov> Try to enter rfc7049 as the draft name to replace
[15:16:46] <Barry Leiba> Maybe we should ask the tools team to key off the "obsoletes" tag for the diff.
[15:16:59] <Barry Leiba> I did: the datatracker tells me that a draft can't replace an RFC.
[15:17:03] <mcr> you have to enter the name of the ID that become rfc7049.
[15:17:11] <Alexey Melnikov> I think this a bug!
[15:17:17] <Alexey Melnikov> Ah
[15:17:19] <Barry Leiba> Report it, then.
[15:17:25] <mcr> Henrik/Robert told me that it was a bug, and the workaround above.
[15:17:56] <Alexey Melnikov> Ok, can you mark it as obsoleting the old draft. This would be still useful.
[15:17:59] <Barry Leiba> Seems like an odd workaround.  For one thing, the RFC isn't the same as the draft that became it.  I'm reluctant to do that.
[15:19:01] <Alexey Melnikov> Running wdiff manually is a major pain
[15:19:47] <Barry Leiba> You don't have to do it manually.  Diff two versions of the draft, then edit the URL to replace one of the drafts with "rfc7049".  I do that all the time, and it's easy.
[15:20:00] <Barry Leiba> Not great, but not so bad.
[15:23:59] <Alexey Melnikov> I think it would be better to incorporate the "no tag" now
[15:24:28] <Alexey Melnikov> What Carsten just said
[15:24:40] <mcr> Do it now.
[15:25:12] <Alexey Melnikov> Do people expect to argue about this change for 6 month?
[15:25:16] <Alexey Melnikov> I hope not :-)
[15:26:09] <mcr> (so, Carsten, on a MAC can project just his slides, and can see jabber, but francesca can not)
[15:26:26] <cabo> I have a larger screen (two of them)
[15:26:38] <mcr> do we need a tag to say that the "no tag" field is not present :-)
[15:26:41] <francesca> (no second screen, working from home)
[15:37:05] <mcr> Are we allowed to have an Irresponsible AD?
[15:37:22] <jimsch1> There have been a couple of those
[15:41:08] <Alexey Melnikov> Many ADs are irresponsible, just don't always admit to it publicly...
[15:51:30] <jimsch1> Henk says that timestamps and wormholes lead to problems?
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[15:59:08] <Alexey Melnikov> Thank you
[15:59:25] <francesca> Thank you!
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