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[01:03:20] <spencerdawkins> So, I'm watching the jabber room. Please let me know if you have questions.
[01:03:27] <eburger> Thanks!
[01:03:44] <eburger> I'm still in the IAOC meeting, so I don't have audio in CDNI yet.
[01:03:44] <spencerdawkins> we're starting with chairs slides
[01:03:47] <eburger> thx
[01:03:53] <eburger> No meetecho?
[01:04:01] <Bruce Davie> the audio feed is very good, btw
[01:04:06] <Aaron> good news
[01:04:14] <eburger> "sounds good" [sic]
[01:05:03] <spencerdawkins> eric - no meetecho (remind them next time) :-)
[01:06:19] <spencerdawkins> --------------- problem statement
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[01:13:13] <Linyi Tian> good morning
[01:13:44] <eburger> slide #?
[01:13:58] <Linyi Tian> slide Content Adaptation (2/4)
[01:14:03] <spencerdawkins> they aren't numbered :-)
[01:14:30] <eburger> aargh. Found it. THanks.
[01:16:16] <eburger> Yuck - gets worse! He's using builds?
[01:16:43] <Linyi Tian> what does builds mean? eric
[01:17:13] <eburger> Fancy graphics on the presentation. Layers appear and disappear. Hard to follow if we do not have Meetecho or WebEx.
[01:17:32] <Linyi Tian> agree.
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[01:17:53] <eburger> Spencer - you've got to keep us up to date on the slides - in 30 seconds he's gone through what looks like 4 slides in the PDF
[01:17:53] <Linyi Tian> We are reviewing the possible ways forward on content adaptation
[01:18:01] <Linyi Tian> (4/4) list three options.
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[01:18:25] <Linyi Tian> since we have one year for the work completion, i don't see the strong reason to exclude this discussion in initial scope.
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[01:20:45] <eburger> In the real world, will people really do Option 3?
[01:21:13] <eburger> [Spencer, Q. for the room...]
[01:21:32] <eburger> Thank Richard for repeating, too.
[01:21:54] <eburger> Thanks.
[01:22:02] <eburger> :-)
[01:22:39] <spencerdawkins> humming for option 1
[01:22:50] <eburger> Eric hums for option 2, OK w/ option 1
[01:22:57] <spencerdawkins> humming for option 2
[01:23:05] <Bruce Davie> hum
[01:23:10] <Linyi Tian> option 2 is ok
[01:23:17] <spencerdawkins> option 3
[01:23:27] <eburger> yuck
[01:23:35] <Bruce Davie> anti hum
[01:23:39] <eburger> anti hum!
[01:23:40] <spencerdawkins> clear for 1
[01:24:04] <spencerdawkins> eric would be covering someone's mouth if he was in the room...
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[01:25:00] <spencerdawkins> ----------------- ben on problem statement updates
[01:27:26] <eburger> hand up
[01:27:52] <spencerdawkins> humming for WC Last Call? ready?
[01:27:59] <spencerdawkins> not ready?
[01:28:01] <eburger> read. Now I will hum for WC LC
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[01:28:37] <spencerdawkins> --------------- gilles on use cases
[01:28:51] <eburger> Can he eat the mic?
[01:28:54] <eburger> Thanks Richard!
[01:29:15] <ietfdbh> can he be heard out there?
[01:29:19] <eburger> barely
[01:29:19] <spencerdawkins> better? mike on other shoulder now
[01:29:25] <Bruce Davie> yes, it's ok
[01:29:38] <spencerdawkins> now handheld
[01:29:38] <eburger> BETTER!!!!
[01:29:45] <Bruce Davie> now overloading the mic
[01:30:00] <Bruce Davie> pretty good now
[01:30:12] <eburger> a touch. tiny bit of saturation, but so much better I would not tell him to do anything different.
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[01:30:44] <eburger> slide 5?
[01:30:53] <spencerdawkins> yes
[01:32:19] <eburger> slide 7?
[01:32:34] <spencerdawkins> yes
[01:33:53] <eburger> slide 8? >:-)
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[01:34:44] <spencerdawkins> advanced use cases
[01:35:10] <Bruce Davie> mic overloading pretty painful now
[01:35:55] <eburger> I thought I had a tear in my speaker :-(
[01:36:13] <spencerdawkins> i got him to back off a little :-)
[01:36:33] <eburger> I just lost my stream (issue on my end). I'll be back momentarily.
[01:36:58] <Bruce Davie> ah, thank you
[01:37:40] <Bruce Davie> yes, this is bearable
[01:38:01] <eburger> I'm back, and he's much better.
[01:39:18] <spencerdawkins> ----------------- requirements
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[01:47:03] <eburger> first was better
[01:47:06] <eburger> good now.
[01:47:08] <spencerdawkins> ---------------- serge, additional requirements
[01:51:01] <spencerdawkins> about ten people have read the draft
[01:51:16] <spencerdawkins> need more people to look at this - please do ...
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[01:53:02] <Bruce Davie> I think that was completely backwards
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[01:55:23] <eburger> Pretty pictures, Mr. Davie...
[01:55:31] <spencerdawkins> -------------- aaron on CDNI framework
[01:55:34] <Bruce Davie> :-)
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[02:06:40] <Bruce Davie> hand up
[02:06:58] <eburger> duh :-)
[02:07:17] <Bruce Davie> anyone else on jabber read it?
[02:07:33] <spencerdawkins> adopt?
[02:07:44] <Bruce Davie> hum
[02:07:49] <spencerdawkins> should not?
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[02:13:03] <spencerdawkins> ---------------- core metadata
[02:13:34] <Bruce Davie> yes
[02:13:35] <eburger> OK, kind of quiet
[02:13:38] <Bruce Davie> we can hear him
[02:13:40] <eburger> no, not me :-)
[02:13:44] <spencerdawkins> ------------ sorry - alto for cdni
[02:14:03] <ietfdbh> eburher, too quiet?
[02:14:27] <eburger> not toooo quiet. It's ok. Thanks.
[02:14:34] <ietfdbh> good. tx
[02:17:49] <eburger> YES (Q 1)
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[02:30:16] <spencerdawkins> ------------ stefano on BGP
[02:30:48] <eburger> let us know where he is...
[02:30:48] <spencerdawkins> slide is "the problem"
[02:30:53] <eburger> thanks
[02:38:16] <eburger> where are we? Step-1?
[02:38:24] <spencerdawkins> \yes
[02:38:34] <eburger> thanks
[02:43:39] <eburger> Mandate RPKI?
[02:45:29] <eburger> I know, all my fault...
[02:46:21] <eburger> If asked, I prefer ALTO
[02:48:21] <eburger> I'm tired - Spencer, you can sit down if you want.
[02:49:29] <yang.r.yang> I see many analogies between this BGP-based design and ALTO: Footprint <=> ALTO Network Map; Connectivity <=> ALTO Cost Map; Footprint ID <=> PID. BGP has this complex multiple ingress point.
[02:49:56] <eburger> +1 to Jon Peterson's comment - we can work this out later.
[02:51:29] <spencerdawkins> -------------- susan - request routing
[02:57:53] <spencerdawkins> -------- metadata - kent
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[03:13:34] <spencerdawkins> ------------ metadata - kevin ma
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[03:29:13] <eburger> yay!
[03:29:20] <spencerdawkins> signing off ...
[03:29:26] <eburger> thanks!
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