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richsalz has set the subject to: IETF-93 CFRG Meeting
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[06:11:17] Yoav Nir has set the subject to: IETF-94 CFRG Meeting
[06:12:55] <Yoav Nir> Today's agenda: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/agenda/agenda-94-cfrg
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[06:19:50] <Meetecho> just as a FYI for remote attendees, if you have any issue with remote audio or video, just mention us and we'll be automatically alerted so that we can look into it
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[06:20:16] <Carsten Bormann> Please prefix questions/comments that should be repeated to the microphone with "MIC:".
[06:20:32] <Yoav Nir> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/agenda/agenda-94-cfrg
[06:20:37] <Yoav Nir> That's the agenda
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[06:21:35] <Yoav Nir> I will be taking notes in Jabber. If you would like to to go to the mic and channel something, prefix with "mic:", but note that we are running a meetecho experiment, so you can also log in through the meetecho app and queue up on that. You would even be able to talk in your own voice.
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[06:23:02] <Yoav Nir> On second thought, I'll do the taking notes in Etherpad.
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[06:34:50] <Ben Kaduk> I hope Rich tells us what he means by "public review", since it could vary quite a bit depending on who is listening.
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[06:38:52] <Joe Hall> sounds like good feedback for his draft
[06:44:48] <Yoav Nir> I think example 1 is wrong.
[06:45:06] <Yoav Nir> corrected text: vendors set id and pw to "admin". Users do not change them
[06:45:17] <Yoav Nir> That's the home router use case
[06:46:16] <whatdafuq> regarding rekeying of GCM, RFC 5116 lists P_MAX for GCM as 2^36 -31 octets. Where is this 2^64 coming from?
[06:47:28] <Yoav Nir> P_max is the size of a single record. TLS limits that to 2^14 anyway.
[06:47:46] <Yoav Nir> 2^64 is the number of records allowed by TLS
[06:48:11] <Yoav Nir> GCM allows 2^96
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[06:51:17] <Yoav Nir> So we are well within the limits that RFC 5116 sets. The question is whether we need to restrict it further.
[06:52:58] <Yoav Nir> BTW: 2^14 * 2^64 = 2^78 = 2^28 petabytes
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[06:53:20] <Yoav Nir> Although most of it will be DKG's padding.
[06:53:39] <sftcd> those'd be petazeros so
[07:00:12] <Yoav Nir> Who is talking?
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[07:00:22] <sftcd> bryan ford
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[07:01:36] <Yoav Nir> thx
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