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[17:59:46] <francesca> Hi, today's I'm going to be your jabber scribe. Please start your comments with "mic:" if you want them relayed to the mic
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[18:01:45] <francesca> Carsten talking now
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[18:05:01] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> francesca: i'm set up here for slot we'll be sharing later (echo test passed, i hope it works when it needs to too)
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[18:05:30] <francesca> ok great
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[18:06:44] <francesca> Laurent Toutain presenting
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[18:15:02] <francesca> Brian Raynor presenting
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[18:19:16] <francesca> Alexey on mic
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[18:19:54] <francesca> Brian again
[18:20:49] <francesca> Carsten talking now
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[18:22:32] <francesca> (meetecho: do you know how to get a functioning mic into the room for comments? who to ask to? )
[18:22:52] <francesca> (only the presenter and chairs ones are working right now)
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[18:26:00] <francesca> Hannes on the mic
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[18:29:49] <francesca> Carles Gomez presenting now
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[18:38:35] <francesca> Carsten talking now
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[18:45:47] <Ludwig> Stuart :-)
[18:46:00] <francesca> :D Sorry
[18:46:11] <francesca> (I'm tired, does it shows?)
[18:46:14] <francesca> Hannes
[18:46:36] <francesca> (show* ...)
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[18:53:58] <francesca> Hannes
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[18:55:30] <francesca> and then now Kerry Lynn
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[19:01:16] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> (meetecho: could you pan to the speaker again? thx)
[19:01:31] <Meetecho> done
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[19:08:41] <francesca> Alexander Pelov
[19:09:57] <Dave Thaler> @francesca: I had to move to another WG meeting for a few minutes, so post in jabber if the presentation changes so I can keep track of the agenda.  thanks.
[19:10:21] <Dave Thaler> (I want to be back in before we get to the security section of the agenda)
[19:10:21] <francesca> Dave: sure.
[19:10:46] <francesca> Actually I'm not sure we will get to it today... :/
[19:11:09] <francesca> Peter van der Stok presenting CoMI now
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[19:13:42] <francesca> Alexander on the mic
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[19:20:57] <francesca> moving to Object Security
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[19:23:09] <Jaime Jimenez> Christian
[19:23:17] <Jaime Jimenez> Do you wanna say somethign?
[19:23:28] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> francesca will hand over to me in two slides
[19:23:32] <Dave Thaler> back in this WG
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[19:23:53] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> (i thought i better get in the queue so you can call me up whenever it's time)
[19:23:58] <Jaime Jimenez> @Christian OK
[19:24:57] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> that's bad
[19:25:25] <mcr> meetech. We do not hear Christian.
[19:25:32] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> no i'm afraid that's on my side, restarting the meetecho
[19:25:33] <mcr> meeteecho. We do not hear Christian.
[19:25:34] <Meetecho> We don't hear him in Meetecho either
[19:25:39] <Meetecho> I think it' a problem on his end
[19:25:52] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> i'm sorry, it worked before :-(
[19:25:59] <Meetecho> possibly a mic issue? can you try rejoining? did the self test work?
[19:26:10] <Ludwig> that's what they all say :-)
[19:26:15] <Christian Amsüss (via meetecho)> i just tried rejoining, but my browser doesn't get my mike
[19:26:23] <mcr> something else has your mic.
[19:26:33] <Jaime Jimenez> @Christian if it is OK Göran is already presenting.
[19:26:46] <mcr> Linux? Mac? Windows? Make sure the previous instance of the browser is really really dead.
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[19:30:04] <mcr> Christian: a question I could ask you directly here: clearly for DTLS, one the two concurrent PUTs have to be from someone with the DTLS keys.  I'm not sure if that is true for OSCOAP,
[19:30:33] <Christian Amsüss_7464> mcr: both are from the same origin, they just get rearranged
[19:31:01] <Christian Amsüss_7464> blocks are required to be from the same endpoint and (if existent) security context
[19:31:38] <mcr> so, it's an annoyance, not a security flaw.
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[19:31:56] <mcr> if the client takes care never to send two requests, it's okay.
[19:31:59] <Christian Amsüss_7464> mcr: it depends on what security guarantees you give
[19:32:35] <Christian Amsüss_7464> mcr: this is not about simultaneous sending
[19:32:49] <Christian Amsüss_7464> but if the first operation fails, at some point in time later, the client will start another operation
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[19:35:48] <Christian Amsüss> mcr: i'm in the room for some more time and would be happy to clarify this
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