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[13:56:53] <Alessandro Amirante> Hi everybody, the session will officially start in ~5 minutes
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[13:58:28] <Henry Stark> A quick question: Does anyone know who would be appropriate to contact regarding jabber issues?
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[13:59:32] <Alexandre Petrescu> hello
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[14:00:15] <Alexandre Petrescu> it's a great looking User Interface, it is new, more buttons.
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[14:00:37] <Alexandre Petrescu> I do not know who to contact about jabber issues.  Maybe somewhere at jabber.tools.ietf.org (?)
[14:01:35] <Matthias Arnold> yes hear you
[14:01:42] <chi che> yes i can hear you
[14:01:43] <Benson Muite> Can hear you
[14:01:46] <Alexandre Petrescu> great, thank you very much
[14:01:53] <Karen O'Donoghue> yes!
[14:02:01] <Alexandre Petrescu> I do not hear anybody else.
[14:02:20] <Alexandre Petrescu> (I am not the organizer)
[14:02:31] <Laurent Ciavaglia> we are silent ;)
[14:02:42] <Cullen Jennings> I head you but when I try and talk, I get an error
[14:02:51] <Cullen Jennings> says somehting went wrong "reconnecting"
[14:03:09] <Alexandre Petrescu> I am on IPv6-only (IPv4 uncheck box in Windows)
[14:03:15] <Henry Stark> Alexandrea:  jabber.tools.ietf.org does not exist for me
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[14:03:40] <Alexandre Petrescu> jabber.ietf.org
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[14:04:51] <alexamirante> the room is being restarted, please hold on...
[14:05:16] <dhruvdhody> oh good, i thought i was doing something wrong and logged into jabber to check
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[14:08:31] <jimsch1> Meetecho:  I am getting a message about setting getter only property 'message'
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[14:09:11] <Cullen Jennings> yah - I'm getting that too now, it has gone thought a varieted of different messages
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[14:09:39] <dhruvdhody> Charles sent an email "There are some technical issues with the session. The link is correct. Hope to have it sorted and start soon." -> so they are aware of it and working to get it fixed
[14:11:43] <Warren Kumari> Alex (from MeetEcho) also said "the room os being restarted, please hold on…."
[14:15:09] <Cullen Jennings> If people would like, I can start a webex ? What is the backup plan for when there are problem with meetecho ?
[14:20:54] <Cullen Jennings> is it working yet for anyone ?
[14:21:09] <Warren Kumari> Differnt error now.
[14:21:33] <Warren Kumari> They are working on it…
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[14:25:10] <Meetecho> Apologies for the last minute issues, guys... we're working on a fix, so you should all be able to get in soon
[14:25:21] <Meetecho> I'll let you know as soon as that happens
[14:27:00] <Cullen Jennings> Give we are about halfway though this meeting, could we switch to whatever the backup plan is ?
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[14:27:53] <Warren Kumari> Almost working (I thikn)
[14:27:59] <Henry Stark> I am back in meetcho
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[14:28:40] <Cullen Jennings> I'm still getting object message error
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[14:28:52] <Warren Kumari> Well… it started working for me, then stopped.,..
[14:29:11] <Warren Kumari> "Fail to fetch authentication page, please reload and try again"
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[14:29:28] <Henry Stark> That was the final error I got, and then refreshed and it worked
[14:29:29] <d3zd3z> "setting getter-only property "message"".
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[14:30:20] <Alexandre Petrescu> anybody is speaking?
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[14:30:25] <Warren Kumari> Finally worked for me,,,,
[14:30:32] <Cullen Jennings> still not working for me
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[14:31:04] <Henry Stark> I don't think anyone is speaking
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[14:31:20] <Alexandre Petrescu> can anyone speak so I can hear?
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[14:31:33] <Henry Stark> I can hear it
[14:31:34] <Alexandre Petrescu> great I hear Warren I thihink
[14:31:35] <Matthias Arnold> we can hear you
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[14:32:00] <jimsch1> Let's revive the idea of playing elevator music during the start period for that purpose
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[14:32:26] <Alexandre Petrescu> yes thats great
[14:32:28] <Henry Stark> New email about it starting an hour later
[14:32:34] <Laurent Ciavaglia> We are going to push the kickoff back an hour from its original start time, so now 08:00 PDT / 11:00 EDT / 15:00 UTC.
[14:32:43] <Laurent Ciavaglia> message from Charles E.
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[14:33:00] <Alexandre Petrescu> I think that is 17h Paris time
[14:33:43] <Alexandre Petrescu> sorry say that again?
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[14:35:12] <Carsten Bormann> I'm still "room not found" in Brave.  Works here in Chrome.
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[14:40:20] <Carsten Bormann> Great.  I now see a different group in Brave.
[14:40:21] <d3zd3z> The gather is definitely interesting.
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[14:41:01] <Alexandre Petrescu> Do I have to click "Enter audio queue" in order for others to hear me?
[14:41:23] <Carsten Bormann> You can be polite or scream into the mike.
[14:41:42] <Alexandre Petrescu> ok
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[14:44:19] <Cullen Jennings> I'm still getting errors
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[14:44:45] <Alexandre Petrescu> no errors for me, constantly on it since about 15min.  On IPv6 only.
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[14:48:03] <Alexandre Petrescu> Is it possible for me to change my audio device, so I go from one mic to another?
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[14:49:35] <Carsten Bormann> I get a different conference in my second instance of this page
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[14:50:57] <Alexandre Petrescu> a conference on another topic?  Or a shado of this one?
[14:51:29] <Carsten Bormann> Chat broken in other instance, 10 participants
[14:51:40] <Carsten Bormann> https://gce.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=hackathon
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[14:52:38] <Carsten Bormann> I think you need to reload to get different audio settings
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[14:53:48] <cabo> Now 13 people in second instance, 27 in first
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[14:54:30] <Alexandre Petrescu> ah... I hesitate to try myself a screen refresh, like Ctl-F5 in firefox...
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[14:55:48] <cabo> Charles seems to be in the second instance
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[14:56:01] <Alexandre Petrescu> I see 24 people.
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[14:57:01] <Henry Stark> 24 as well
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[14:57:06] <Carsten Bormann> Number of people in other instance rapidly rising
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[14:57:13] <Carsten Bormann> Slides being shown
[14:57:19] <Alexandre Petrescu> I see 30 now
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[14:57:35] <Alexandre Petrescu> I did my Ctl-F5
[14:57:52] <Carsten Bormann> Charles asks you all to reload
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[14:58:20] <Meetecho> The room should be working again, now
[14:58:41] <Carsten Bormann> Which one, this one or the one where Charles is in?
[14:58:42] <Warren Kumari> Cannot assign to read only property 'message' of object ''
you will be redirect to the events list page in few seconds
[14:58:46] <d3zd3z> Now I'm getting the "setting getter-only property "message"" and it takes me back to the meeting agenda page.
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[14:59:37] <Meetecho> We're not aware of any side room: this is the only one we're managing.
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[14:59:57] <d3zd3z> I tried refreshing, and now I'm unable to join.
[14:59:58] <cabo> There are 17 people in the other room under https://gce.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=hackathon
[15:00:00] <Meetecho> Besides, the chat is connected to the Jabber room, so it can't be split
[15:00:07] <cabo> Try again
[15:00:15] <d3zd3z> I've tried about 10 times so far.
[15:00:17] <cabo> It doesn't work in Charles' instance
[15:00:17] <Meetecho> cabo: that's the one I'm in too and I see 30 people
[15:00:25] <Alexandre Petrescu> I clicked tha tpage and it says "getter" something
[15:00:36] <cabo> I see 21 and 17, respectively
[15:00:47] <Meetecho> Alexandre Petrescu: try a hard refresh, that should have been fixed
[15:01:07] <Alexandre Petrescu> 'hard' refresh... restart firefox ?
[15:01:27] <Warren Kumari> Now geting: Cannot assign to read only property 'message' of object ''
you will be redirect to the events list page in few seconds
[15:01:28] <cabo> Alex is already in the new room
[15:01:32] <Marco Tiloca> I was in. After reloading, same as error as before: "Cannot assign to read only property 'message' of object "
[15:01:49] <Warren Kumari> … and now I again get: Fail to fetch authentication page, please reload and try again
[15:01:54] <d3zd3z> "setting getter-only property "message"" specifically.
[15:02:02] <Alexandre Petrescu> *i see slide
[15:02:09] <cabo> I tried more often than that
[15:02:13] <d3zd3z> I saw the fail to fetch authentication page before, but now I only see the read-only property message.
[15:02:25] <rikard.hoglund> Yeah I was in too and after reloading same error message as in the beginning
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[15:02:35] <d3zd3z> This time I got "room not found".
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[15:03:09] <d3zd3z> Going to try restarting Firefox. Although, hopefully I'll still be able to log into Gather as well.
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[15:03:42] <d3zd3z> Same getter-only error after restarting Firefox.
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[15:04:34] <dhruvdhody> Gee the error is back
[15:04:59] <Alexandre Petrescu> I hear well but I can not see someone.
[15:05:11] <Alexandre Petrescu> Is the presenter supposed to be visible?
[15:05:19] <Meetecho> No, Charles is not sending video
[15:05:29] <Meetecho> You should see the slides though
[15:05:38] <Alexandre Petrescu> Where is Charles situated in the world?
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[15:05:54] <Cullen Jennings> I reloaded as charles said and not I am kicked out getting errors again
[15:05:55] <d3zd3z> Any suggestions on what to try, other than keep trying to open the page?
[15:06:05] <Alexandre Petrescu> there is a self test page
[15:06:37] <Meetecho> The self-test page is useful to make sure WebRTC works for you, but nt for the issue you're experiencing
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[15:06:48] <Meetecho> We're still investigating the cause, and are working while the session goes on
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[15:06:53] <Meetecho> I'll give updates
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[15:07:23] <cabo> Cannot assign to read only property 'message' of object ''
[15:07:23] <d3zd3z> It was working until I did a refresh.
[15:07:34] <Cullen Jennings> I'd rather not run the session if a signficatn number of people can not join
[15:07:55] <d3zd3z> And how many can't join that don't have a separate jabber connection to chat?
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[15:08:31] <Brendan Moran> I've joined the instance with 15 participants currently. The only "slide" I see says "Sponsored by ICANN"
[15:08:47] <d3zd3z> There also seems to be something akin to an IRC split going on.
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[15:09:09] <cabo> Yes, the chat in Charles' instance doesn't work at all
[15:09:26] <cabo> The slides seem to be frozen to the first one
[15:09:26] <rikard.hoglund> Same issue joining for me still ""Cannot assign to read only property 'message' of object '' you will be redirect to the events list page in few seconds""
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[15:10:16] <d3zd3z> This time I got the failed to fetch authentication error.
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[15:10:53] <Meetecho> d3zd3z: for that you should just need to refresh the page
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[15:11:14] <d3zd3z> After refreshing, I then get the error about the read-only property.
[15:11:26] <Barry Leiba> I'm not seeing any slides changing.
[15:11:29] <Mehdi Bezahaf> the slides are not changing for me?!
[15:11:32] <d3zd3z> Or "room not found", it varies.
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[15:12:16] <d3zd3z> BTW, it would be much easier to refresh if it didn't actually redirect to the events list page.
[15:12:19] <Alexandre Petrescu> there are several kinds of refresh in firefox: refresh button, Ctl-F5, History-&gt;delete recent, etc.
[15:12:37] <d3zd3z> This is opening a fresh tab every time, since it redirects back to the events list.
[15:13:00] <Alexandre Petrescu> I see the "Why We are here" slide
[15:13:20] <cabo> Oh, can't zoom in like you could in Webex
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[15:13:39] <rikard.hoglund> I tried in Chrome F12->Right click reload button->Hard reload. Then I get error "Fail to fetch authentication page, please reload and try again" instead
[15:13:41] <d3zd3z> So, if I'm quick to press Ctrl-F5, I think I can get the login page, but I still get the error on fetching authentication there. Even after resets.
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[15:13:46] <Alexandre Petrescu> I see "Note Well" slide
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[15:14:06] <Yiwen Shen> I am still on the first page of the slides.
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[15:14:19] <Alexandre Petrescu> d3zd3z, are you on IPv4?
[15:14:25] <rikard.hoglund> Okay after clicking the button for the datatracker login a number of times I finally got in
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[15:14:30] <d3zd3z> Yes. I'm finally connected.
[15:14:32] <Yiwen Shen> The page did not update, no idea why.
[15:14:45] <d3zd3z> And I see Charles speaking.
[15:14:49] <Yiwen Shen> When I logged in, I was asked to sign into my datatracker account on a page popped out, which I already did. It might be the problem
[15:14:52] <Henry Stark> Connected!
[15:14:53] <dhruvdhody> Still getting error here!
[15:14:58] <Meetecho> Yiwen Shen: if you hover on the slides, you can click the pause icon to try and restart the slides feed
[15:15:05] <cabo> dhruvdhody: reload faster :-)
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[15:15:07] <Cullen Jennings> still errors for me
[15:15:13] <Yiwen Shen> Ok
[15:15:16] <cabo> Don't wait for the redirect
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[15:15:47] <d3zd3z> Is there a link to the wiki?
[15:15:49] <Yiwen Shen> It works, on the Projects page.
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[15:16:06] <Alexandre Petrescu> I cant clck on the Lost and Found
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[15:16:14] <Yiwen Shen> Meetecho: Thanks!
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[15:17:03] <dhruvdhody> I    A M    I N  
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[15:17:57] <d3zd3z> We definitely need a placae to find these links.
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[15:18:27] <Alexandre Petrescu> Normally there is a button with an open folder, saying Meeting MAterials when rolled over.
[15:18:31] <cabo> 2 people made it into the codimd.  Hurray.
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[15:18:41] <Marcus Jones> Just now was able to join, bunch of others coming...
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[15:19:02] <d3zd3z> The meeting materials shows two blank sections. Agenda and Slides.
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[15:20:55] <Alexandre Petrescu> https://gather.town  can be browsed in IPv6 only.
[15:21:08] <Alexandre Petrescu> (I mean, too in IPv6 only)
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[15:21:21] <Karen O'Donoghue_424> I'm in now!
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[15:21:28] <d3zd3z> I'm IPv4 and in gather.town.
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[15:21:33] <Alexandre Petrescu> I can not click on the link on the pptx
[15:21:53] <Alexandre Petrescu> and there is a long string to rememner z6N2SD...
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[15:22:23] <Alexandre Petrescu> ok, let me try, hoping he keeps the slide on
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[15:22:40] <d3zd3z> https://gather.town/z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108
[15:22:46] <Alexandre Petrescu> z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108
[15:22:59] <Yiwen Shen> Alex, I guess you cannot click the link on a shared screen.
[15:23:03] <Alexandre Petrescu> thank you
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[15:23:57] <Alexandre Petrescu> it works, annd asks me to select webcam and mic...
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[15:25:14] <d3zd3z> I'm connected via XMPP. Anyone know if there is a way to make my display name show as my name rather than the handle?
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[15:25:59] <Meetecho> d3zd3z: we already pick the display name, my guess is that your jabber client is not setting one, or is using your username as the display name in the MUC
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[15:27:57] <d3zd3z> Maybe I chose poorly when I picked a Jabber service, as I don't see any way to set my display name.
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[15:35:14] <Karen O'Donoghue_424> you might have said this... where will these slides be?
[15:35:21] <Henry Stark> https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/ietf108-project-presentations/blob/master/kickoff-presentation.pdf
[15:35:39] <Karen O'Donoghue_424> in Github!
[15:35:51] <Karen O'Donoghue_424> Thanks Henry (and Charles)
[15:35:54] <d3zd3z> There is a "meeting materials" tab in meetecho, that might be useful if someone can figure out how to put the links there.
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[15:36:25] <Meetecho> d3zd3z: that will be used for working groups, you'll see slides and drafts there
[15:37:02] <d3zd3z> How did you zoom in Gather?
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[15:38:18] <Alexandre Petrescu> strange mirror
[15:38:23] <Yiwen Shen> mirror
[15:38:23] <Henry Stark> I saw it
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[15:38:29] <Henry Stark> gsther.town
[15:38:30] <d3zd3z> It looks fine when you're showing gather.town
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[15:38:42] <Benson Muite> Fine in gather.town
[15:38:42] <cabo> Lost audio when I reloaded.
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[15:39:16] <Meetecho> cabo: there's an icon to reconnect audio in the lower-right part of the screen
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[15:39:29] <Cullen Jennings> Can anyone other than charles talk ?
[15:39:29] <Cullen Jennings> I can't
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[15:40:01] <Meetecho> Cullen Jennings: you need to click the mic icon next to your name to ask for the floor
[15:40:03] <Abubakr Magzoub> Me too, I'm unable to talk
[15:40:07] <cabo> Meetecho: says "reconnecting" for a while and stays dead
[15:40:15] <d3zd3z> What about permissions to edit the wiki? It says to use datatracker account, but that doesn't seem to work.
[15:40:24] <cabo> OK, went to different browser now
[15:40:30] <Abubakr Magzoub> Besides I am not able to see the same view as Chalres on Gather !
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[15:40:56] <Abubakr Magzoub> No voice Chalres
[15:40:58] <cabo> I hear someone, not Charlse
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[15:41:05] <Yiwen Shen> Barry is speaking?
[15:41:07] <Kai Heine> i am hearing someone else typing instead of charles
[15:41:12] <Meetecho> I see Barry unmuted
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[15:41:38] <Yiwen Shen> I can't hear anything from Barry.
[15:41:48] <cabo> Charles is in the queue
[15:41:49] <Cullen Jennings> me either
[15:41:53] <Henry Stark> I hear no one
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[15:41:59] <Karen O'Donoghue_424> I've lost audio
[15:42:01] <Barry Leiba> Sorry: I re-muted.
[15:42:02] <Kannan Jayaraman> yes no audio
[15:42:09] <Barry Leiba> No audio from Charles here either.
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[15:42:12] <Barry Leiba> Yes.
[15:42:13] <Cullen Jennings> Barry , did you try to speak ?
[15:42:13] <Henry Stark> Now
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[15:42:15] <Abubakr Magzoub> Yes
[15:42:15] <Barry Leiba> Can hear now.
[15:42:16] <Kai Heine> yes
[15:42:17] <Marcus Jones> Yes now we hear you
[15:42:22] <cabo> Charles had camera only
[15:42:25] <Meetecho> You couldn't hear anything because Charles was muted
[15:42:31] <Marcus Jones> Q: What's the best way to join / find a team? I don't immediately see the login option for the Lost &amp; Found wiki page...
[15:42:34] <cabo> WE NEED A STRONGER "I'M SPEAKING" INDICATION.
[15:42:40] <Meetecho> We granted him the floor (possibly he tried to add himself to the queue)
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[15:43:05] <Abubakr Magzoub> Could you please go again through how to join Gather and select a group. Thank you
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[15:44:38] <Barry Leiba> Meetecho: it would help if the microphone icon changed more significantly when you muted/unmuted.  The difference is easy to miss visually.
[15:44:56] <Henry Stark> Maybe a change in color
[15:45:01] <cabo> Not the icon.  The whole screen should go from blue to red.
[15:45:12] <Alexandre Petrescu> can I click it?
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[15:46:42] <Cullen Jennings> What was the URL for gather.town hackathone space ?
[15:46:46] <alexamirante> Barry Leiba: there's a pretty clear indication that you're speaking: your audio spectrum is displayed live just below your name
[15:46:55] <Alexandre Petrescu> https://gather.town/z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108
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[15:47:18] <Abubakr Magzoub> On Gather, I see the floor layout only !
[15:47:22] <cabo> alexamirante: Yes, but that is not something you look at when you present.
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[15:47:52] <Alexandre Petrescu> how to speak?
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[15:47:57] <Meetecho> cabo: that's the current indication we have. We'll make sure this is reflected in the docs
[15:48:17] <cabo> Yes.  All I'm asking is that you fix this in time for the meeting.
[15:48:20] <Alexandre Petrescu> I clicked to enter the audio queue
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[15:48:57] <cabo> The other thing that is really jarring is that you need to switch between the participants and chat views.
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[15:49:38] <Meetecho> cabo: there's only so much we can cram in the same place :)
[15:49:48] <Meetecho> We've tried to keep the UI compact and readable
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[15:50:00] <Meetecho> We'll collect feedback on the UI this meeting, to improve it for the next time
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[15:50:32] <Barry Leiba> Meetecho: I can only tell you that I had left myself unmuted, and did not obviously see that I had.  A better indication that I'm unmuted would help.
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[15:50:41] <cabo> The screen has a background.  Change that.
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[15:51:25] <Meetecho> As I said, the current indication is the volume icons appearing under your name, so that's what you should keep track of during this meeting to know when you're unmuted
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[15:51:40] <cabo> Yes, and you can fix that.
[15:51:44] <Meetecho> It's probably unclear, which is why we suggested making it clearer in the docs
[15:51:55] <Barry Leiba> You're welcome to ignore the advice you're getting.  I suggest you instead listen to it.
[15:52:02] <cabo> I'm listening.
[15:52:08] <Meetecho> Not in a few days we can't. Especially considering people have wildly different ideas on what an UI should look like
[15:52:08] <Yiwen Shen> Better mute other's mic if not speaking.
[15:52:09] <cabo> It still is bad advice.
[15:52:18] <Barry Leiba> Carsten, that was meant for Meetecho, not for you.  :-)
[15:52:24] <Meetecho> If you have a good suggestion, I'll gladly listen
[15:52:25] <cabo> :-)
[15:52:34] <cabo> Background color of page.
[15:52:42] <Meetecho> But I can't promise we'll be able to make substantial changes
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[15:52:57] <Meetecho> Ok, I'll pass it along to the devs
[15:52:58] <Barry Leiba> Anyway, Carsten and I have to go to another meeting.....
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[15:55:05] <Henry Stark> You need to click the person 66 button
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[15:55:14] <Dhruv Dhody> participant can see the queue
[15:55:21] <Warren Kumari_729> Everyone can see the queue
[15:56:06] <cabo> Meetecho: .videobox-container {
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[15:56:19] <Yiwen Shen> very strong echo...
[15:56:29] <cabo> Well, maybe that is too strong, but you get the idea.
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[15:57:53] <Alexandre Petrescu> (was the echo during my talk?)
[15:58:18] <jimsch1> @meetecho:  Is the hallway going to be open all this week?
[15:58:40] <Yiwen Shen> When I mute the speaker on this page, the echo is gone.
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[16:00:12] <Abubakr Magzoub> Thank you
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[16:00:24] <Yiwen Shen> Thanks.
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[16:00:27] <Hongwei Li> Thanks a lot
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