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I not sure which stream it is [16:02:06] I can't connect to audio for any oif the sessions not just LISP [16:02:10] Doug Barton joins the room [16:02:29] fmcway leaves the room [16:03:16] gigix73 joins the room [16:03:30] shikob joins the room [16:03:50] wolfgang.beck01 joins the room [16:04:14] Sam's presentation [16:04:20] shep joins the room [16:04:24] in case no one else has mentioned it, they are working on the audio [16:04:39] Concerns to address [16:04:54] becarpenter joins the room [16:04:56] fmcway joins the room [16:05:03] Changes since review [16:05:22] Identity/identification [16:05:47] Design constraints [16:05:57] Eadson joins the room [16:06:33] no audio? [16:06:36] Concern about various issues [16:07:03] Overlap eid/rloc [16:07:15] Eadson: NOC is working on the audio (or at least I understand that they've been informed... [16:07:18] Antonio Moreiras joins the room [16:07:31] Good, thanks [16:07:39] Charter proposal [16:08:00] jishac: that's correct [16:08:06] Sam asks for comments [16:08:35] M wassermann [16:09:00] Audio works ! [16:09:05] Composition of identifiers confusing? [16:09:27] matthijs joins the room [16:11:00] I was particularly commenting that the use of the words "global" and "local" to refer to portions of the identifier might be somewhat ambiguous/confusing when we also talk about global locators and identifers. [16:11:23] jishac notes that audio is at: http://feed.verilan.com:8000/continental_4.m3u [16:11:43] Don street @ mike [16:11:53] The "global" portion of the ID is not used for global routing. It is used for routing in some mid-level routing scope between the global Internet and routing within the site (i.e. subnetting). [16:12:11] oleg.ponomarev joins the room [16:12:33] shep leaves the room [16:13:27] M Wassermann @ mike [16:14:25] sandoche2k joins the room [16:14:35] hantula joins the room [16:15:05] Jari Arkko @ mike [16:15:20] adams@jabber.isoc.org joins the room [16:15:23] Seung Yi joins the room [16:15:42] teemu joins the room [16:15:46] adams@jabber.isoc.org leaves the room [16:15:49] Presentation draft-farinacci-lisp [16:15:51] LUOJ-COMPUTER joins the room [16:16:27] Did audio start working? [16:16:33] Sam, yes [16:16:37] Slide 3 [16:16:49] are the presentations on line? [16:16:59] HannuF joins the room [16:17:13] should be [16:17:40] cmorgan joins the room [16:17:55] cmorgan leaves the room [16:17:58] Slide 5 [16:18:23] Anyone knows where I can find the presentations online (if they're online)? [16:18:29] Slide 6 [16:18:43] toby moncaster joins the room [16:19:00] Seung: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/lisp-1.ppt [16:19:18] Slide 7 [16:19:44] Slide 8 [16:20:03] benno leaves the room [16:20:10] benno joins the room [16:20:32] I sent mail to the list but https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=74 [16:20:35] Atarashi Yoshifumi joins the room [16:20:36] hantula leaves the room [16:20:39] shikob leaves the room [16:20:49] Slide 9 [16:21:00] fmcway leaves the room [16:21:15] shikob joins the room [16:21:16] Links to other presentations at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/74/materials.html scroll to LISP (BOF) [16:21:16] Doug Barton leaves the room [16:21:19] shikob leaves the room [16:21:34] shikob joins the room [16:21:58] hantula joins the room [16:23:14] Slide 10 [16:24:00] sandy joins the room [16:24:09] Slide 11 [16:25:33] Slide 12 [16:26:08] Slide 13 [16:26:53] Slide 14 [16:27:09] Slide 15 [16:28:02] sandoche2k leaves the room [16:30:42] Lars joins the room [16:31:13] jacniq joins the room [16:31:25] Oleg @ mike [16:32:35] antony joins the room [16:32:45] Lars leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:32:45] Lars joins the room [16:33:31] Doug Barton joins the room [16:34:05] Dino leaves the room [16:34:23] Presentation lisp+alt [16:34:26] Dino joins the room [16:34:45] Slide 2 [16:35:00] some additional comments: HIP can use HIP protocol (139) and UDP encapsulation [16:35:31] the traffic can be encrypted, but it is optional [16:35:37] Slide 3 [16:35:52] Slide 2 again [16:36:03] Slide 3 [16:36:30] hantula leaves the room [16:36:33] shikob leaves the room [16:37:08] to save the router (HIP-proxy) CPU resources peers may use null cipher [16:37:59] Slide 4 [16:38:43] roque joins the room [16:38:58] Slide 5 [16:39:54] Lars leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:39:55] Lars joins the room [16:40:43] darrel - try to speak into the mic, it's hard to hear you from the 5th row [16:42:05] Jari Arkko@ mike [16:43:06] Doug Hantula joins the room [16:43:09] christopher.morrow joins the room [16:43:24] Erik Nordmark @ mike [16:44:48] swb joins the room [16:44:55] sandoche2k joins the room [16:45:24] That was dino farinacci [16:45:51] Presentation lisp-ms [16:46:09] Slide 2 [16:46:25] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/lisp-5.ppt [16:46:45] ? [16:47:02] Doug: yes, slide 2 [16:47:08] thanks [16:47:25] Slide 3 [16:48:49] Slide 4 [16:49:02] (Note for hartmans, links to presentations on the agenda make life much easier for remote participants .... pdf versions make life even easier) [16:49:05] swb leaves the room [16:49:24] Slide 5 [16:49:30] Slide 4 [16:49:42] Doug Hantula leaves the room [16:49:43] Dino F @ mike [16:50:12] Slide 5 [16:50:53] Slide 6 [16:51:07] swb joins the room [16:51:12] hantula joins the room [16:51:49] Slide 7 [16:52:51] jacniq leaves the room [16:53:06] Slide 8 [16:53:21] Slide 9 [16:54:38] no discussion? [16:54:39] Dave Harrington @ mike [16:55:33] Daved Meyer [16:56:15] xiaodong.lee joins the room [16:56:24] Gregory Cauche [16:56:51] lllmartini joins the room [16:57:26] Jari Arkko [16:58:16] ??@ Mike [16:59:27] Dimitri papadimitrou, alacate-lucent [16:59:39] Jari arkko @ mike [17:01:08] swb leaves the room [17:01:24] Dimitri P @ mike [17:01:34] swb joins the room [17:01:44] swb leaves the room [17:02:07] Christian Vogt @ mike [17:03:04] swb joins the room [17:03:26] David Meyer @ mike [17:03:58] what are the chances you could actually say what the comments are? I am in another room and I can't tune in on the audio right now [17:04:09] Dave Oran @ mike [17:04:14] swb leaves the room [17:04:32] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/lisp-3.ppt on the screen [17:04:43] I'm too slow for transcription [17:05:13] hantula leaves the room [17:05:18] xiaodong.lee leaves the room [17:05:45] lixia joins the room [17:06:01] Presentation lewis interworking [17:06:19] hantula joins the room [17:06:20] Slide 3 [17:06:43] swb joins the room [17:07:08] Slide 4 [17:07:27] Slide 5 [17:07:57] Lars leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:07:57] Lars joins the room [17:08:23] Slide 6 [17:08:58] Doug Barton leaves the room [17:08:58] lixia leaves the room [17:09:09] swb: Cristian Vogt told that everything gets too complex [17:09:18] when you add lisp-ms? [17:09:27] Slide 7 [17:09:30] thank you VERY much for filling in some detail by the way [17:10:16] swb: I guess, lisp-alt was not mature enough to be a group item [17:11:13] jpcerezo joins the room [17:11:20] Slide 8 [17:11:30] swb: chairman asked about mapping server in general, but the conclusion left unclear to me [17:11:51] swb: there was no voting, just some comments [17:11:55] lixia joins the room [17:11:57] ietfdbh joins the room [17:12:07] there is a web server that you can get to with the v4 ptr -- www.lisp4.net [17:12:15] the v6 one is on www.lisp6.net [17:12:16] Joel Halpern @ mike [17:12:28] Joel -- we should adopt it [17:12:43] hantula leaves the room [17:12:46] Joel -- it is important part, there is a lot of internal discussion [17:13:06] benno leaves the room [17:13:13] benno joins the room [17:14:03] Presentation lisp multicast [17:14:10] resnick joins the room [17:14:16] hantula joins the room [17:14:17] Slide 2 [17:14:27] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/lisp-7.ppt on the screen [17:15:11] There was no conclusion on adopting MS. The presumption is that we'll adopt unless strong disagreement. [17:15:34] Lars leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:15:34] Lars joins the room [17:16:18] Slide 3 [17:17:02] Slide 4 [17:17:20] gigix73 leaves the room [17:17:47] Slide 5 [17:19:20] call for volunteers: security analysis [17:19:36] Unassigned work items [17:19:42] Agenda slide [17:20:08] Bernie joins the room [17:20:40] Some volunteers where i didnt get the name [17:20:40] (rogue gagliano@Mike) [17:20:52] the previous did not have a badge [17:21:49] Presentation lisp mapping versioning [17:21:54] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/lisp-0.pdf on the screen [17:22:18] Slide 2 [17:22:33] I don't know if there was an actual call for people who are interested in looking at the network management aspects of list, but I saw that on the slide, and I would be interested in helping with that. 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