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[15:10:31] <Abdussalam> Hello
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[18:07:27] <John Dowdell> Anyone here?
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[18:08:32] <hrogge> Good evening everyone...
[18:08:52] <John Dowdell> Hi Henning
[18:09:16] <hrogge> was an active day on the Manet list ^^
[18:10:36] <John Dowdell> Must admit I wasn't paying attention, but just looked now and ... wow!
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[18:12:27] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Good evening
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[18:13:26] <John Dowdell> Hi Absussalam
[18:13:53] <John Dowdell> Oops sorry typing issues!
[18:14:24] <Jiazi YI> hi everyone
[18:14:30] <Jiazi YI> do we have audio stream now?
[18:14:45] <hrogge> I am not sure... getting these streams running with Linux is always a pain
[18:15:20] <John Dowdell> Can anyone hear us?
[18:15:41] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Hi John, it's ok :-)
[18:18:07] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I have no audio received
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[18:18:44] <Lotte Steenbrink> I can't hear anything either
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[18:19:41] <Jiazi YI> I couldn't get the audio stream, but I managed to use http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/remote-participation.html#Meetecho
[18:20:12] <Jiazi YI> and I see Ulrich
[18:20:24] <Lotte Steenbrink> ha! I can hear some whispering
[18:20:33] <Paolo Saviano> Hi, you can't hear audio streaming?
[18:20:34] <ricktaylor> Are you sure that's us?
[18:20:42] <Lotte Steenbrink> yup.
[18:20:52] <ricktaylor> :-D
[18:20:58] <ricktaylor> We've started
[18:20:59] <Paolo Saviano> :)
[18:21:41] <ricktaylor> Is the audio working?
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[18:22:36] <Jiazi YI> I got audio/video from meetecho
[18:23:14] <hrogge> got it working
[18:23:30] <ricktaylor> Good
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[18:24:14] <hrogge> it now worked in Chrome! *G*
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[18:25:49] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Yes there was DLEP report
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[18:26:15] <Abdussalam.Baryun> But we need report of list of issues
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[18:27:27] <Abdussalam.Baryun> We discussed that on the list but I think we needed Rick's list for the final revision
[18:28:00] <ricktaylor> I posted the list, and I understand that Stan is working on integrating that output into the next draft
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[18:29:25] <Abdussalam.Baryun> The WG can decide even if chairs are not f2f but they maybe remote
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[18:30:24] <ricktaylor> Abdussalam, I will ask your DLEP questions at the mike during any questions rather than now, is that ok?
[18:30:33] <ricktaylor> *mic
[18:30:55] <Abdussalam.Baryun> To the chairs@ could we start WG drafts present before individual?
[18:31:42] <ricktaylor> will ask ab.
[18:32:03] <Paolo Saviano> you can try new meetecho interface at http://manitoba.conf.meetecho.com/ietf/login.jsp?ietf=manet
[18:32:48] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Ok thanks Rick,
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[18:35:00] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Regarding DLEP it's questions can be postpone, as you suggested. I just reply to Thomas input.
[18:35:32] <ricktaylor> Ok
[18:49:30] <hrogge> Audio stream is only producing noise
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[18:50:06] <ricktaylor> Fixed now?
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[18:50:29] <John Dowdell> issue with radio mic.
[18:50:38] <hrogge> yes, fixed now
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[18:51:26] <Jiazi YI> from meetecho, the slides disappear?
[18:51:43] <alessandro amirante> fixing them
[18:51:47] <ricktaylor> Hmmm... Thomas is using his iPhone
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[18:51:54] <alessandro amirante> just a while
[18:52:08] <ricktaylor> Ok... let me know if I need to interrupt him
[18:53:00] <Jiazi YI> no, it's OK.
[18:53:24] <Jiazi YI> at least, I can still follow the slide for the moment :)
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[18:58:42] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Agree with Rick.
[18:59:03] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I did not read yet just skim
[18:59:41] <ricktaylor> Ok... its being taken to the list
[18:59:49] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I think we already have many threat items
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[19:11:15] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 8: Multipath Dijkstra Algorithm
[19:11:39] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 9: Interoperability with OLSRv2
[19:12:27] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 10: Running code
[19:13:09] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 11: Testbed and simulation experience
[19:14:23] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 12: Why Experimental RFC?
[19:14:25] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 13: Experiments to be conducted
[19:14:32] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 14: Next Steps
[19:15:34] <Abdussalam.Baryun> How many draft we need to review and adopt
[19:16:11] <Jiazi YI> manet is more unreliable, and is more interesting for this kind of multipath routing
[19:16:12] <Abdussalam.Baryun> That is not to ask to mic just in jabber :)
[19:16:40] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I support Adrian Qs
[19:16:54] <Jiazi YI> We found the multipath routing has more performance gain in dynamic and lossy scenrios
[19:19:23] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Source routing is source routing !!
[19:20:53] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Not read
[19:21:01] <Abdussalam.Baryun> We need time
[19:21:33] <Abdussalam.Baryun> It is not right to ask the WG to review many drafts in short time!!
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[19:22:47] <hrogge> The core of the draft is a modification of the Dijkstra Algorithm... we only have one Manet protocol which use Dijkstra at the moment
[19:23:17] <ricktaylor> I'm queuing at mic for comments
[19:23:37] <Jiazi YI> There are some multipath extensions existed for AODV
[19:24:00] <Jiazi YI> in different ways, not necessarily using Dijkstra
[19:24:31] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Short time
[19:24:57] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Meaning give us more time to review in months
[19:25:07] <Paolo Saviano> Presentation is over
[19:25:47] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Thanks Rick.
[19:26:04] <ricktaylor> No problem
[19:28:13] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Multipath is not source routing, but source routing has multipath abilities.
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[19:31:50] <Jiazi YI> sorry, I didn't quite get your point.
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[19:33:30] <Abdussalam.Baryun> We need to limit our works, so I agree with Justin
[19:34:08] <ricktaylor> in line for mic
[19:34:14] <Abdussalam.Baryun> After finishing reactive standard.
[19:35:13] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Who is speaking now
[19:35:38] <ricktaylor> Vince Park before Charlie
[19:36:36] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Yes, as Charlie, we need to finish standards first
[19:43:02] <Abdussalam.Baryun> We need multicast no doubt. I agree but we need priority as well. So maybe only proactive multicast  
[19:44:54] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 1: Collective Next Steps
[19:46:12] <Paolo Saviano> Presentation is over
[19:50:23] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I supported the idea but does draft support RFC5444?
[19:50:45] <hrogge> DLEP does not support RFC5444... so this doesn't either.
[19:50:53] <hrogge> Question for mic: How do L3-DLEP radios do multicast?
[19:51:04] <Abdussalam.Baryun> Quick Question to Rick please. If no time then it is ok.
[19:51:30] <John Dowdell> Ok i will take jabber scribe while Rick is speaking. I will ask.
[19:52:58] <John Dowdell> AB speaking for myself, L3 DLEP does not use RFC5444 in this draft
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[19:54:22] <hrogge> +1
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[20:01:50] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: Problem    
 
[20:01:52] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 3: Possible    
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[20:02:19] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Possible    
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[20:05:52] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 5: Overview    
 
[20:06:04] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 7: Proxy    
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[20:06:18] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 8: Constructed    
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[20:06:57] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 7: Proxy    
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[20:09:48] <Paolo Saviano> Presentation is over
[20:10:37] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 3: Recent    
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[20:18:59] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Previous    
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[20:22:52] <hrogge> see you on the list
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[20:24:11] <Abdussalam.Baryun> I agree with Rick's last comment. However, thanks Rick. Bye
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