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dkg has set the subject to: MLS @ IETF102 -- hackathon https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/102hackathon/MLS
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[12:43:39] <m&m> jmillican@outer-planes.net I have a change in flight that updates iota from H(secret) to HMAC(secret, "iota"), but open to better options
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[14:30:08] <richard.barnes> Did someone submit spec PRs?
[14:30:24] <m&m> not yet ... need to
[14:30:46] <richard.barnes> đź‘Ť
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[14:32:04] <m&m> I'm not sure there's a problem with the specs per se, so starting with a PR for treekem to experiment
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[14:35:47] <jmillican@outer-planes.net> m&m: sounds good. I'd suggest that we also change the other derivation to HMAC(secret, "parent") or something
[14:36:02] <jmillican@outer-planes.net> I don't like the idea of having any rogue raw SHA256s around
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[14:38:11] <richard.barnes> I mean, shouldn’t we really be doing HKDF?
[14:38:46] <m&m> _I_ think we should ... I can work out what the PR looks like
[14:41:22] <jmillican@outer-planes.net> Probably yeah
[14:42:03] <richard.barnes> Shouldn’t be crazy, just more `await cs.digest(...)`
[14:43:29] <jmillican@outer-planes.net> I mean I don't know if either of these options is "technically" OK for deriving DH private keys - in that I think it may introduce new assumptions that we didn't previously rely on
[14:44:03] <jmillican@outer-planes.net> Might be misremembering my chats with Katriel though. And I think the consensus is that the new assumptions should most likely be fine to rely on
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