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[04:13:33] <rbless> Martin was giving an overview of the current work
[04:13:55] <rbless> Martin was asking for participation in a next interop test in Karlsruhe
[04:14:17] <rbless> Roland: will check for a date after this session
[04:14:29] <teemu> the audio stream has some interruptions or silent spaces it seems
[04:14:57] <rbless> Test cases: Christian Dickmann said people are working on it
[04:15:08] <rbless> Now discussion GIST and moving forward
[04:16:22] <rbless> Henning Schulzrinne: it is currently more difficult to get a GIST spec through IESG review than RSVP in the past (that had not to consider a lot of the stuff that's in GIST now)
[04:17:07] <rbless> Henning: anything that makes the GIST document longer is not really helpful, some more ADs would probably abstain from reviewing it
[04:17:51] <rbless> Magnus Westerlund: 2 abstaining ADs are leaving, only 2 remain
[04:18:27] <rbless> [People on the audio]: are more people experiencing bad quality?
[04:19:55] <teemu> the quality is much better now, probably something temporary on my end
[04:20:22] <rbless> Henning: maybe a short overview presentation of GIST for the ADs would be helpful
[04:20:47] <rbless> Lars Eggert: most of the concerns are: "how does this fit into the architecture"?
[04:21:27] <rbless> Robert Hancock: difficult issues are: how does this interact with the Internet, e.g. RAO?
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[04:23:01] <rbless> Now up: Robert presenting GIST v12
[04:24:33] <rbless> Slides: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/nsis-7.pdf
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[04:30:09] <rbless> Currently discussing protocol change 6, slide 7
[04:41:14] <rbless> Now up slide 12
[04:48:16] <rbless> No comments on GIST presentation. Now up: Jukka presenting QoS NSLP
[04:48:48] <rbless> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/nsis-0.pdf
[04:54:11] <rbless> Dave Oran's comment: RMF and Application API are in different directions
[04:54:23] <rbless> Dave: difficult case is preemption!
[04:55:06] <rbless> Probably requires protocol changes
[04:55:31] <rbless> Dave: solved this for RSVP but needed protocol machinery for this
[04:56:10] <rbless> Christian Dickmann: is application for example something like a VoIP application
[04:56:29] <rbless> then it is not part of the QoS model
[04:57:40] <rbless> No further comments.
[04:57:49] <rbless> Now Up: NAT/FW NSLP
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[04:59:37] <rbless> Hannes presents http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/nsis-4.ppt
[05:05:01] <rbless> No comments on this draft
[05:05:57] <rbless> lars.eggert@googlemail.com: do not start WGLC for other documents while GIST is not off the table...
[05:06:29] <rbless> Now up: T. Sanda presenting NSIS mobility applicability draft
[05:06:41] <rbless> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/nsis-5.ppt
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[05:13:56] <rbless> Rober Hancock: Invalid NSIS responder problem appears also in other protocols/contexts, e.g. DNA. Look at other protocols/solutions?
[05:15:45] <rbless> Now up: Jerry presenting the QSPEC draft
[05:17:33] <rbless> Test cases: Christian Dickmann said people are working on it Now discussion GIST and moving forward Henning Schulzrinne: it is currently more difficult to get a GIST spec through IESG review than RSVP in the past (that had not to consider a lot of the stuff that's in GIST now) Henning: anything that makes the GIST document longer is not really helpful, some more ADs would probably abstain from reviewing it Magnus Westerlund: 2 abstaining ADs are leaving, only 2 remain [People on the audio]: are more people experiencing bad quality?
[05:17:58] <rbless> sorry...pasted to the wrong window...
[05:18:15] <rbless> :-(
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[05:29:19] <rbless> RMD presentation by Georgios...no comments on that
[05:29:45] <rbless> Now up: Christian Dickmann with GIST over SCTP
[05:34:26] <rbless> Comment from Magnus: not a good thing to leave out TLS, you would also need to have security for SCTP
[05:40:31] <rbless> Robert Hancock: multi-homing support is kind of irrelevant because MAs are run between nodes not along paths
[05:41:58] <rbless> Lars Eggert: are there any benefits for using SCTP?
[05:42:47] <rbless> Robert: more advantages like DoS resistant handshake etc. likely more performance enhancements
[05:43:09] <rbless> Could also ask the same question about SIP over SCTP?
[05:44:54] <rbless> Dave Oran: different because heavy traffic between proxies, split over streams, moreover multihoming important...
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[05:46:02] <teemu> thanks
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