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[19:36:13] <acmacm> is the plenary starting late? (there's no audio)
[19:36:30] <leymann> its already running
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[19:37:09] <jishac> all rooms, all the time, or so he said... :)
[19:37:19] <loughney> Just joined - are the presentations on-line anywhere?
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[19:38:59] <acmacm> Ahh, audio on!
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[19:50:28] <hartmans> Have they not already received that request?
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[19:55:01] <sureshk> is there anyone who is not in the room?
[19:55:25] <acmacm> yes, me
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[19:56:05] <mgupta> Don't we have a jabber scribe today ??
[19:56:23] <sureshk> No Mukesh, unless you elect yourself
[19:56:26] <mgupta> :)
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[19:56:32] <mattz> I'm not in the room, either, although I could be
[19:56:33] <mgupta> Can't type that fast ;)
[19:56:49] <sureshk> rfc editor is presenting
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[19:57:00] <sureshk> they have published 4000 rfcs
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[19:57:52] <sureshk> talking about the new copyright / ipr rules
[19:58:03] <mgupta> rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org public discussion list..
[19:58:08] <sureshk> they are accepting apr 1 submissions until Mar 18
[19:58:32] <mgupta> http://www.rfc-editor.org/news.html
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[19:59:37] <sureshk> the network is really flaky
[19:59:39] <mgupta> Says that people are implementing Apr 1st RFC :D
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[20:01:07] <mgupta> If you are using xml2rfc to write your drafts, please send the source file to rfc editor. They are really useful.
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[20:01:40] <mgupta> The End :)
[20:02:50] <mgupta> RFC Editor lost people and that's why they were slow..
[20:02:59] <mgupta> They have hired 3 people and they are training them now..
[20:03:08] <mgupta> IANA Report
[20:03:38] <mgupta> Nov 2004: in queue at start: 24, Received: 12, completed 9
[20:03:52] <mgupta> Dec 2004: in queue at start: 30..
[20:04:03] <mgupta> lost the slides :( Not typing fast enough :-/
[20:04:22] <mgupta> Current status: 18 open docs..
[20:04:31] <mgupta> 3 on hold..
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[20:05:25] <mgupta> Is anyone reading what I am typing ?? Is it helping anyone ?
[20:05:32] <mgupta> Or I should just stop :D
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[20:05:59] <mattz> I'm listening to the audio... but the #'s were interesting to see (and the audio is about 5 sec behind)
[20:06:19] <mattz> since the slides aren't online, if you see anything, just reflect that
[20:06:25] <acmacm> I'm listening to audio, but points made on the slides are lost...
[20:06:29] <mgupta> Ok I will try that :)
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[20:06:44] <mattz> it's probalby also helpful to the minutes taker (at least it's helpful to me when I have to make up minutes)
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[20:06:53] <mattz> try to catch q&a gist too
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[20:07:07] <mattz> s/make up/edit/
[20:07:24] <mgupta> New request tracking system online..
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[20:07:37] <acmacm> s/make up/complete fabrication/ :-)
[20:07:52] <tonyhansen> minutes are more fun when they're made up! :-)
[20:08:00] <mattz> nah, the group always catches those :)
[20:08:01] <mgupta> :)
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[20:08:35] <mgupta> Barbaba Roseman was hired by IANA
[20:08:36] <loughney> anyone catch the number of people attending this IETF? Was that presented?
[20:08:50] <mgupta> IANA Operations Manager..
[20:08:52] <leymann> yes, it was
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[20:08:58] <acmacm> hey tonyH, Al back in NJ
[20:09:01] <mgupta> How many ?
[20:09:02] <hartmans> 1100ish
[20:09:12] <mgupta> Hmm.. that's very low !
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[20:10:00] <leymann> sorry, network is not stable.
[20:10:07] <leymann> 1167 people
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[20:10:48] <warlord> why would only 1167 people cause an unstable net? We've had more stable networks with many more people.
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[20:12:59] <mgupta> New chair for IRTF: Aaron Falk of ISI
[20:13:19] <mgupta> New mailing list : rgchairs@ietf.org
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[20:13:51] <mgupta> draft-iab-irtf-00.txt
[20:14:15] <mgupta> Discusses the role of IRTF as framed by IAB.. PLease review..
[20:14:32] <mgupta> Anti-spam has been quiet..
[20:14:32] <loughney> At the last IETF and this IETF, WLAN controllers are being used - could these cause some teething pains?
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[20:21:25] <mgupta> Raw data from the tracker: http://rtg.ietf.org/~fenner/iesg/data
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[20:36:10] <mgupta> Spencer: Is it possible to find out who the sphearding WG chair is for any particular doc..
[20:36:15] <mgupta> Dave: No
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[20:36:36] <mgupta> Not yuet
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[20:36:48] <mgupta> Someone: Can the wg chair be the editor and the speheard at the same time ?
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[20:37:04] <mgupta> Dave: Not prefered..
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[20:37:13] <mgupta> Chris: Any doc that has used this process yet ?
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[20:37:27] <mgupta> Dave: Yes.. Don't remember the names but sthere are some..
[20:38:01] <mattz> wgchairs heard earlier from Allison that "not Prefered" is really a strong NO
[20:38:45] <mgupta> Hmm... May be it is a strong NO.. I couldn't quite catch Dave's word :)
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[20:39:17] <mgupta> I didn't hear a strong NO from Dave though.. Anyone else ?
[20:39:23] <mattz> dave may well have stated it that way. it's in the doc describing the new structure
[20:39:31] <mgupta> IASA report..
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[20:40:18] <mgupta> IANA Status:
[20:40:22] <mgupta> The IASA BCRP is done..
[20:40:35] <mgupta> Briefest of summaries..
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[20:40:42] <mgupta> IANA is an ISOC activity
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[20:50:08] <acmacm> wish we could see the slides...
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[20:51:47] <mattz> did harald post a URL for slides by any chance?
[20:51:58] <acmacm> not here
[20:52:27] <warlord> no
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[20:55:51] <warlord> "bye, Harald"
[20:56:00] <mgupta> and Hi Brian :)
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[20:56:30] <mgupta> Stepping into Harald's shoes..
[20:56:48] <mgupta> Brian Carpenter. The new chair of IETF..
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[20:57:10] <mgupta> Shoe Sizes are not invariant.. 3 pictures of shoes on the slide.
[20:57:32] <mgupta> So Thanks to Harald and Thomas..
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[20:58:36] <mgupta> A little bit about me:
[20:58:36] <mgupta> Born Leicester: England in 1946
[20:58:36] <mgupta> BA in Physics, Cambridge 1967
[20:58:44] <mgupta> PhD in Comp Sc Manchester 1970
[20:59:17] <mgupta> IBM since 1997: IETF activity since 1992
[20:59:24] <mgupta> IAB 1994-202
[20:59:32] <mgupta> ISOC board 00-03
[21:00:06] <mgupta> An Observation.. IETF chair has multiple roles..
[21:00:26] <mgupta> Chair of IETF.. Chair of IESG.. AD of GEN Area.. MEmber of IAB, Member IAOC
[21:00:36] <mgupta> and others nobody has told me about..
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[21:03:30] <mgupta> Network is really flaky !
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[21:05:39] <acmacm> I know, I was there till Tuesday...
[21:05:53] <mgupta> My Goals:
[21:05:53] <mgupta> Make the IESG able to steer..
[21:05:58] <acmacm> Thks for perservering
[21:06:10] <mgupta> Make the Admin Restructuring work
[21:06:37] <mgupta> Focus on improving IETF Progress..
[21:06:37] <mgupta> you are welcome :)
[21:06:37] <mgupta> Focus on vital liaison relations..
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[21:08:59] <acmacm> All frowns have the same arc
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[21:09:45] <mgupta> List for consensus/complains..
[21:09:45] <mgupta> Look out for dangers..
[21:09:45] <mgupta> "Arrange for the best possible distribution of unhappiness"
[21:09:45] <mgupta> brc@zurich.ibm.com .. I am listening !
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[21:18:01] <jishac> it would be interesting to know what people currently use for their own spam solution.
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[21:18:39] <jishac> and how effective it has been for them
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[21:31:08] <mgupta> Spam Bayes has been working nice for me..
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[21:33:19] <acmacm> thks again, mgupta
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