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[18:50:42] <stefan.winter> Test?
[18:51:01] <stefan.winter> Yay!
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[18:56:57] <stefan.winter> Hello, world?
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[19:17:40] <hartmans-remote> what's a URI to the meetecho? I might find the audio better for that than the mp3 stream
[19:17:53] <stefan.winter> http://salon-a.conf.meetecho.com/WebLite/index.jsp
[19:18:04] <stefan.winter> That’s where I am (dont hear anything yet there though...)
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[19:18:45] <Alejandro Perez> Neither do I,
[19:19:00] <Winter Stefan> there is audio on the audio stream
[19:19:08] <Alejandro Perez> I now see video
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[19:20:30] <stefan.winter> my internet connection is too lousy for video to work apparently.
[19:21:26] <Alejandro Perez> I see the video, it seems ok, audio is a little noisy, and intermittent
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[19:21:53] <Alejandro Perez> lots of small silences
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[19:23:31] <stefan.winter> Fund with my ISP and router, yes.
[19:23:39] <Alejandro Perez> for those in the meetecho, how is the quality of the presentation view? I can hardly distinguish lwords
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[19:27:18] <Chris Blask> the video feed is spot on, but the pres view is very low rez
[19:28:31] <Chris Blask> don't seem to be getting audio, is it supposed to be voip or is there a separate phone dialin?
[19:28:48] <Alejandro Perez> turn on webrtc audio
[19:28:51] <Alejandro Perez> or HTML5 one
[19:28:55] <stefan.winter> When I was in Meetecho earlier, I just got the audio for free :-)
[19:29:00] <stefan.winter> but no video for me...
[19:29:10] <stefan.winter> so Audio stream is just as well
[19:29:12] <Alejandro Perez> on the top right coerner, there is an icon to enable it
[19:31:09] <hartmans-remote> The accessibility of meetecho is zero.  I'd never tried it before.
[19:31:39] <hartmans-remote> I cannot even use the web page well enough to either use webrtc or extract the rtsp uri
[19:31:52] <hartmans-remote> Which is fine because I have the mp3 stream
[19:31:54] <Alejandro Perez> rtsp://salon-a.conf.meetecho.com/8ftbeo6.sdp
[19:34:43] <hartmans-remote> thanks!
[19:35:05] <Alejandro Perez> welcome! hope that's better than mp3 stream
[19:36:04] <stefan.winter> Q (at end of presentation): you enumerate TCP, UDP, ICMP - what about other protocols, say SCTP? Too exotic, no port range config needed?
[19:37:58] <jimsch1> Is the question for a specific slide?
[19:38:19] <stefan.winter> Came up at slide 6.
[19:40:14] <jimsch1> Does that answer you question?
[19:41:02] <stefan.winter> Well... good enough for now. Arran actually drills in more now :-)
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[19:43:15] <hartmans-remote> Well, these days sctp normally runs over udp:-) (webrtc)  Also, note that sctp nat is kind of tricky because of the checksum (not for mic)
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[19:43:50] <stefan.winter> I was hoping we were in a world were it just runs on IP. Oh well.
[19:43:55] <hartmans-remote> cannot hear this speaker
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[19:46:03] <Alejandro Perez> I can, using the rtsp://salon-a.conf.meetecho.com/8ftbeo6.sdp
[19:53:10] <stefan.winter> :-)
[19:53:31] <hartmans-remote> I think you got a bunch of really picky review comments and hope it doesn't slow down too much (not for mic)
[19:54:11] <stefan.winter> TSVDIR early review is still outstanding; all the rest is just „nothing“ really.
[19:55:49] <Alejandro Perez> Yes, so far all the issues have been addressed. I will depend on how picky are from the TSVDIR
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[20:03:45] <hartmans-remote> Oops, should actually mention what types are used in draft-ietf-radext-bigger-packets.
[20:07:37] <hartmans-remote> mic: It seems really important to do this work and to assign types at publication of this document.
[20:08:17] <jimsch1> do you want to add a history comment to?
[20:12:41] <hartmans-remote> I will review.
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[20:14:41] <jimsch1> Stefan - ready for your presentation?
[20:14:46] <stefan.winter> Yes, and on Skype.
[20:14:53] <stefan.winter> But not on Meetecho.
[20:14:57] <jimsch1> Call in pease
[20:15:03] <stefan.winter> And I wasn’t sleeping ;-)
[20:15:14] <jimsch1> He does not know your number
[20:15:25] <stefan.winter> Um, you always called me - don’t have you in my contact list.
[20:15:29] <stefan.winter> I’m stefan.winter.78
[20:15:55] <stefan.winter> Actually, Mauricio always called me. ...
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[20:17:31] <jimsch1> korhonen.jouni
[20:17:35] <jimsch1> try that
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[20:18:14] <stefan.winter> did it, pending authz to add him.
[20:18:49] <stefan.winter> It’s ringing ... :-)
[20:20:10] <jimsch1> Slide: Overview
[20:20:59] <jimsch1> Slide: Example
[20:21:37] <jimsch1> Slide Fail, Pt2
[20:21:48] <jimsch1> Slide Example
[20:22:20] <jimsch1> Slide: Fail, pt1
[20:23:13] <jimsch1> Slide: Fail Pt2
[20:24:09] <jimsch1> Slide: Solution
[20:24:14] <jimsch1> Slide: Fail Pt2
[20:24:42] <jimsch1> Slide: Solution
[20:24:52] <jimsch1> Slide: Back to Fail pt2
[20:25:13] <jimsch1> Slide: Solution
[20:27:10] <jimsch1> Back to fail pt 2
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[20:32:56] <stefan.winter> 3577?
[20:33:01] <jimsch1> 3579
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[20:35:06] <stefan.winter> Great :-)
[20:35:20] <hartmans-remote> I support Jim's idea of TLS to std track
[20:40:00] <hartmans-remote> Isn't ieee-radext  an rfc?
[20:41:19] <hartmans-remote> Jim, populating eap identity is important and isn't really advisory.
[20:41:34] <hartmans-remote> It ccorrects problems  we found in the eap applicability statement.
[20:41:43] <hartmans-remote> rather while writing the eap applicability statement.
[20:42:12] <jimsch1> Like I said - I have not had a chance to read it yet.  If I did I might support it ore
[20:42:26] <hartmans-remote> It doesn't have a lot of implementation impact (eap identity) because it documents mostly existing practiceish
[20:42:56] <stefan.winter> As I said, issue one was actually done wrong by some handset implementer.
[20:43:15] <stefan.winter> I struggled pointing out to the guy where exactly he’s gone wrong - but it wasn’t stated anywhere explicitly.
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