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[09:53:24] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Howdy, I'll be the jabber relay for the session.
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[09:53:44] <Meetecho> as a reminder for remote participants, you can make questions as yesterday
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[09:53:55] <mahoney@nostrum.com> If you need to make a comment at the mic, please preface the comment with MIC
[09:53:57] <Meetecho> just use the "raise your hand" icon to enter the virtual mic queue
[09:54:15] <Meetecho> and we'll inject your audio in the room
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[09:55:02] <Randell Jesup> I sung along at home
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[09:55:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> :)
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[09:57:42] <Maire Reavy> jesup: you have an unfortunate last name for this working group
[09:57:56] <Simon Romano> :-)
[09:57:59] <Jonathan Lennox> I'm fairly certain the protocol was named after him.
[09:58:06] <Uwe Rauschenbach> @Lorenzo: I see no slides (Meetecho @ Mozilla). Any hint how to fix?
[09:58:23] <mahoney@nostrum.com> currently on
[09:58:24] <mahoney@nostrum.com> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-6.pdf
[09:58:24] <Meetecho> Uwe Rauschenbach: slides should be up
[09:58:28] <Maire Reavy> jonathan: I'm starting to believe that
[09:58:32] <mahoney@nostrum.com> pg 3
[09:58:33] <Meetecho> they just changed
[09:58:50] <Meetecho> try leaving and joining again in case it was an issue setting the stream up
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[09:59:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> Uwe: try clicking the podium icon
[09:59:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> in the upper right part of the screen
[10:00:01] <Lorenzo Miniero> you may have ended in a different tab by mistake
[10:00:16] <Uwe Rauschenbach> I re-joined, and tried clicking the podium icon too.
[10:00:17] <Lorenzo Miniero> ops just saw you had left
[10:00:24] <Uwe Rauschenbach> No improvement.
[10:00:44] <Uwe Rauschenbach> I suppose I have to live with Jabber + audio it at this session
[10:01:35] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Instead of a hum on adoption here, chairs will start a WGLC adoption next week on WebRTC SDP Examples
draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-sdp
[10:01:38] <Lorenzo Miniero> uwe you can get slides here too: http://conf.meetecho.com/video?s=congresshall3&r=rtcweb_II&c=8893154
[10:01:56] <Lorenzo Miniero> it's flash based and you'll have to mute the audio stream it tries to open if you want to avoid echo
[10:02:22] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Now presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-1.pdf
[10:02:26] <mahoney@nostrum.com> RTCWEB GWs
[10:03:32] <Randell Jesup> wouldnt put it past justin and ekr - but I suspect it was an unfortunate accident
[10:04:05] <Randell Jesup> (re JSEP)
[10:08:02] <Uwe Rauschenbach> hummmmm
[10:08:05] <mahoney@nostrum.com> anyone strongly in favor of making this a standards track doc?
[10:08:44] <mahoney@nostrum.com> no one in the mtg room was strongly in favor
[10:09:22] <mahoney@nostrum.com> presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-4.pdf
[10:09:32] <mahoney@nostrum.com> QoS for data channel
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[10:30:13] <mahoney@nostrum.com> any objections to Cullen's proposal?
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[10:32:11] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-15.pdf
[10:32:22] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Transport Warmup
[10:32:36] <mahoney@nostrum.com> (took me a while to find the presentation)
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[10:38:04] <Tim Panton> Side note : WebAudio already allows you to create a MediaStreamTrack
[10:48:02] <mahoney@nostrum.com> @Tim, I'm standing in line for you
[10:49:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> Tim is already in line in the virtual queue :)
[10:50:55] <mahoney@nostrum.com> But the speaker and the chairs can't see it because the notification is behind them.
[10:51:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> you're right, sorry!
[10:51:37] <mahoney@nostrum.com> People in the room have been waving hands and pointing at the screen to call attention to it.
[10:51:44] <Lorenzo Miniero> :D
[10:51:52] <mahoney@nostrum.com> I figure standing in line as a place holder works.
[10:52:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> fair point, sorry, I hadn't thought about that
[10:54:05] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Perhaps people coming to the mike should make note if there's someone already in the virtual queue and let them go first.
[10:54:53] <Simon Romano> Perhaps there should be one SINLGE queue for everybody...
[10:55:03] <Simon Romano> ...which is the next step.
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[10:56:19] <Randell Jesup> What I proposed at the mic today avoids the second offer/answer (in the normal case).  Any case where a track is removed or added/etc on the receiver will require a 2nd pass. It does require the answerer's "accept" be communicated to the sender by means-unspecified.  If there were any changes required, you do the re-offer, as normal.  But as said, this all can be done if you have some dummy track mechanism - we just wouldn't need the "answer sendonly" bit, but it won't hurt us
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[10:57:47] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Up next: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-3.pdf
[10:57:52] <mahoney@nostrum.com> FEC in WebRTC
[10:58:06] <Randell Jesup> Could someone show that last jabber message to Justin/Peter before everyone disappears?  Thanks
[10:58:34] <Simon Romano> I'll do that at te end of the session.
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[11:05:39] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Now https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-12.pdf
[11:05:42] <mahoney@nostrum.com> RETURN
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[11:10:27] <mahoney@nostrum.com> who would turn up at a virtual interim?
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[11:16:03] <mahoney@nostrum.com> Now https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/slides/slides-93-rtcweb-5.pdf
[11:16:11] <mahoney@nostrum.com> FEC FRAME for Multiple SSRCs
[11:21:01] <Simon Romano> Goodbye guys!
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[11:21:16] <mahoney@nostrum.com> bye!
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