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[19:54:51] <Tal Mizrahi> Hi, I will be the jabber scribe. Any comments for the mic - please use a [mic] prefix.
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[19:56:58] <Tal Mizrahi> Greg Mirsky - remote presentation:
[19:57:00] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-mirsky-rtgwg-oam-identify-00
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[20:09:36] <Tal Mizrahi> A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network
[20:09:41] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-a-simple-bgp-based-mobile-routing-system-for-the-aeronautical-telecommunications-network-00
[20:09:50] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Fred Templin
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[20:16:50] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-ding-rtgwg-arp-yang-model-01
[20:16:56] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Robert Wilton
[20:19:26] <Tal Mizrahi> Acee Lindem at the mic
[20:19:46] <Tal Mizrahi> Next presentation...
[20:19:50] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-00
[20:19:55] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Yingzhen Qu
[20:22:52] <Tal Mizrahi> Jeffrey Haas at the mic
[20:24:43] <Tal Mizrahi> Acee Lindem at the mic
[20:26:07] <Tal Mizrahi> Next...
[20:26:12] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-asechoud-rtgwg-qos-model-00
[20:26:20] <Tal Mizrahi> By Aseem Choudhary.
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[20:32:21] <Tal Mizrahi> Next presentation (by the same presenter):
[20:32:25] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-asechoud-rtgwg-qos-oper-model-00
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[20:36:14] <Gregory Mirsky> What is difference between PErformance metric and QoS telemetry?
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[20:38:34] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-lee-rtgwg-actn-applicability-enhanced-vpn-00
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[20:38:42] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Young Lee
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[20:42:47] <Gregory Mirsky> @Tal, could you please convey questions to the presenter.
[20:43:20] <Tal Mizrahi> Sorry about that. Missed your question.
[20:43:25] <Tal Mizrahi> Will do.
[20:43:35] <Gregory Mirsky> Thank you Tal.
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[20:54:27] <Gregory Mirsky> How the model controls performance measurement protocols?
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[20:57:01] <Gregory Mirsky> What produces these metrics?
[20:58:12] <Gregory Mirsky> It cannot produce latency without measurement
[20:58:25] <Tal Mizrahi> mic?
[20:59:06] <Tal Mizrahi> Greg, should I relay that last comment to the mic?
[20:59:09] <Dhruv Dhody> Greg the idea was this model represent what the customer is interested in and then it is the job of the MDSC to generate that by some means!
[20:59:39] <Dhruv Dhody> and that means could be to enable OAM for a particular tunnel or get it passively from a tunnel yang model etc
[20:59:55] <Tal Mizrahi> Next...
[21:00:03] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-draft-song-ntf-00
[21:00:12] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Zhenbin Li
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[21:01:47] <Gregory Mirsky> When you refer to telemetry, do you mean telemetry information, as network state information, or telemetry protocol, as protocols to collect and/or transport network state information?
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[21:02:28] <Gregory Mirsky> Would you agree that machine-readable is what you refer to as "telemetry"?
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[21:06:29] <Gregory Mirsky> Are you familiar with LMAP WG work, in particular, informational and YANG models?
[21:10:31] <Gregory Mirsky> Isn't BFD proactive OAM?
[21:11:05] <Gregory Mirsky> @Tal, no need to pass my last comment
[21:11:16] <Gregory Mirsky> :)
[21:11:23] <Tal Mizrahi> ok
[21:12:28] <Gregory Mirsky> I believe that it is critical to differentiate telemetry information and telemetry protocols
[21:13:01] <Gregory Mirsky> and scope work properly
[21:13:27] <Tal Mizrahi> Benoit Claise at the mic
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[21:16:32] <Tal Mizrahi> Ignas Bagdonas at the mic
[21:19:19] <Tal Mizrahi> Next...
[21:19:22] <Tal Mizrahi> Coordination of Network Management Evolution
[21:19:30] <Tal Mizrahi> Presenter: Ignas Bagdonas (OPS AD)
[21:19:53] <Tal Mizrahi> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-rtgwg-sessa-coordination-of-network-management-evolution-00
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[21:31:21] <Tal Mizrahi> Dean Bogdanovic at the mic
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[21:42:16] <Tal Mizrahi> Dean Bogdanovic at the mic
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[21:49:13] <Tal Mizrahi> Adjourned!
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