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Fenton has set the subject to: SAAG at IETF 104 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-saag
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[17:28:11] synp has set the subject to: SAAG at IETF 105 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-saag-01
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[17:40:38] <synp> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-saag-privacy-issues-in-identifier-locator-seperation-protocols-00
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[17:47:42] <Rich Salz> I missed Elliot's "related WG" message, can someone post a summary here?
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[17:48:51] <Rich Salz> tnx
[17:49:47] <Rich Salz> And Linda Dunbar?
[17:50:50] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> hmm, I remember that less clearly; I think it was that idr is working on
some SDWAN scenarios involving IPsec configuration and/or key
distribution
[17:52:31] <synp> IDR is considering working on some ideas about configuring IPsec or IKE with BGP unbenownst to the IPsecME people, so yesterday they had a sort of a "joint" meeting, with some IPsec people coming to the IDR meeting, which turned out to be constructive.
(this is surprising because us IPsec people tend to be possessive of our protocol :-)  )
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[17:53:57] <Rich Salz> tnx, updated
[17:54:10] <Rich Salz> BTW, minutes are at https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-105-saag feel free to join the fun.
[17:54:29] <Rich Salz> I'm not possessive of that etherpad, unlike IPsec folks.
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[18:02:45] <sftcd> #include <idloc-debates-over-the-decades>
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[18:05:23] <synp> Bob again
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[18:08:12] <synp> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-saag-do-we-need-an-expanded-internet-threat-model-00
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[18:16:49] <synp> ...you will see something new
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[18:18:42] <synp> We've had computer viruses before most computers were connected to any network, let alone the Internet
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[18:45:08] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Oops, forgot to talk about single-interaction analysis versus
collective analysis, but I think Ekr mostly covered it
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[18:49:11] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> perhaps this gets to the "abuse cases" as well
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[19:01:04] <synp> There was also the NEA working group
[19:01:26] <synp> They spent several meetings discussing what "posture" was
[19:01:34] <synp> The result was IIRC that everything is posture
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