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[12:33:16] <Aaron Woland> Test
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[12:46:10] <Meetecho Scribe> Hi Syam
[12:46:19] <Meetecho Scribe> can you hear the room
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[12:47:23] <Meetecho Scribe> Syam... are you there?
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[12:47:30] <Meetecho Scribe> can you hear me?
[12:48:05] <Kim Watson> i can hear you
[12:48:45] <alessandro amirante> hi kim, I think you didn't allow access to you mic
[12:49:00] <Kim Watson> checking now
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[12:50:16] <Kim Watson> which button?
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[12:50:32] <Meetecho Scribe> are you using google chrome?
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[12:50:53] <Meetecho Scribe> you shoul have a camera icon
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[12:51:23] <Kim Watson> i don't have chrome...using firefox...the camera and mic are crossed out
[12:51:39] <Meetecho Scribe> in the address bar
[12:51:44] <Meetecho Scribe> on the rigth
[12:52:03] <Meetecho Scribe> you should have a star and a video-camera icons
[12:52:06] <alessandro amirante> when you logged in, you should have seen a popup asking you to enable access to your microphone and webcam, did you see it?
[12:52:09] <Meetecho Scribe> can you see them?
[12:52:40] <Kim Watson> no popup. might be blocked by policy. we'll just let dave present and i will just attend
[12:52:48] <Meetecho Scribe> ok
[12:54:44] <David Waltermire> good morning Kim,.
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[12:55:35] <Kim Watson> hi dave. you
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[13:10:21] <Lisa Lorenzin> For the remote participants, is there anyone on Jabber who is _not_ on the audio stream?
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[13:10:38] <Andrew Feren> me
[13:10:43] <Syam Appala> Mine suddenly stopped working
[13:10:49] <Kim Watson> same here
[13:10:50] <Andrew Feren> Had audio, but lost it
[13:10:59] <alex ami> it should be back now
[13:11:01] <Lisa Lorenzin> Working on it
[13:11:03] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> No audio in MeetEcho
[13:11:03] <Meetecho Scribe2> want about audio now?
[13:11:03] <Meetecho Scribe2> ok
[13:11:07] <Andrew Feren> just started again
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[13:11:25] <Syam Appala> started again
[13:11:41] <Lisa Lorenzin> Can you hear Nancy?
[13:11:42] <alex ami> server went suddenly down, sorry about that
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[13:12:16] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> I'd be happy start a webex for everyone, with an audio bridge.
[13:12:53] <Henk Birkholz> any better audio would be better :-)
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[13:13:14] <Andrew Feren> same here.  Audio is gone again
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[13:13:29] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> Folks in the room, are you able to dial into a webex, if I start one?  Audio just not working with MeetEcho
[13:13:44] <alex ami> it's a matter of network connectivity here in vancouver, don't think webex could be better though
[13:14:09] <alex ami> audio back now
[13:14:13] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> Alex:  WebEx would use a regular audio bridge, so you all could dial in.  
[13:14:29] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> I have zero audio, still
[13:14:36] <alex ami> yes, but what about the feed from toronto?
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[13:14:53] <Syam Appala> Here is the webex
[13:14:54] <Syam Appala> Topic: IETF Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 Time: 6:00 am, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco, GMT-07:00) Meeting Number: 205 221 700 Meeting Password: 1234 Host Key: 245248 (use this to reclaim host privileges)  ------------------------------------------------------- To start the online meeting ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=m29c9edc54261e151413654f1a3e6 6cef 2. Log in to your account. 3. Click "Start Now". 4. Follow the instructions that appear on your screen.  ---------------------------------------------------------------- ALERT ­ PLEASE READ: DO NOT DIAL THE TOLL FREE NUMBERS FROM WITHIN THE (408) OR (919) AREA CODES ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please dial the local access number for your area from the list below: - San Jose/Milpitas (408) area: 525-6800 - RTP (919) area: 392-3330
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[13:16:04] <Lisa Lorenzin> Do you have audio now?
[13:16:06] <David Waltermire> Is the audio working?
[13:16:10] <Andrew Feren> yes
[13:16:18] <Danny Haynes> i have audio
[13:16:18] <Steve Venema> Works on meetecho
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[13:19:01] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> I do not have any audio
[13:19:05] <Lisa Lorenzin> The architecture slides Nancy is reviewing can be found here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-sacm-3.pptx
[13:19:30] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> I may just drop.  It's kind of useless without any audio
[13:19:44] <Adam Montville> What's the audio bridge information for the webex?
[13:19:47] <David Waltermire> Anyone else having audio problems?
[13:20:13] <t c> we had a network down a couple a minutes agò
[13:20:18] <t c> audio is back now
[13:20:39] <Andrew Feren> david using meetecho is working now (for me)
[13:20:51] <t c> try to leave the room and join again later
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[13:21:15] <Lisa Lorenzin> Aaron, what is the toll-free number for the webex?
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[13:22:51] <alex ami> is anyone still having audio issues?
[13:23:13] <t c> in any case you can find information about remote participation tools at  http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/remote-participation.html
[13:23:22] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> 1.866.432.9903
[13:23:33] <alex ami> this is a direct rtsp stream: rtsp://manitoba.conf.meetecho.com/cr7wo42.sdp
[13:23:54] <Adam Montville> What's the meeting code for the WebEx?
[13:23:56] <alex ami> you can use any player to open it (e.g., VLC, QuickTime)
[13:24:18] <Lisa Lorenzin> https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?MTID=m29c9edc54261e151413654f1a3e66cef
[13:24:25] <Adam Montville> Is it 205 221 700?
[13:24:26] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> 205 221 700
[13:24:29] <Adam Montville> :-)
[13:24:49] <Adam Montville> Should we switch to using WebEx for audio then?
[13:24:55] <t c> and here the high quality (but 10 seconds delayed)  stream http://ietf90streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf903.m3u
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[13:28:06] <Adam Montville> Just say the word and we can use WebEx audio.
[13:28:47] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> word
[13:29:01] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> I am trying a different browser / etc.  I cannot get the audio through meetecho
[13:30:01] <Lisa Lorenzin> Can you hear Nancy on the Webex now?
[13:30:02] <Adam Montville> We are now on the WebEx bridge for audio
[13:30:35] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> that's SO nice!  Thank you
[13:30:56] <Henk Birkholz> HD m3u stream finally is useful! thx!
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[13:32:05] <t c> Presentation is over
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[13:32:45] <Lisa Lorenzin> Next up are Dave Waltermire & Kim Watson with their SACM Information Model submission: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-sacm-0.pptx
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[13:33:18] <t c> Slide 1: SACM Information Model Submission
[13:33:20] <t c> Slide 2: Miscellaneous Stuff
[13:34:30] <Clifford Kahn> The audio is uneven. Perhaps the speaker could be closer to the mike?
[13:34:58] <Adam Montville> Clifford, are you using the audio stream or WebEx?  
[13:35:00] <Lisa Lorenzin> Cliff, audio on webex or meetecho?
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[13:35:06] <t c> Slide 3: Our Approach
[13:35:30] <Aaron Woland_Cisco> he sounds clear on the webex audio bridge., cliff.  
[13:35:32] <Clifford Kahn> I am using Meetecho
[13:36:17] <Steve Venema> Coming through quite clear on Meetecho Cliff. May be your net connection quality?
[13:37:01] <Andrew Feren> audio is acceptable, but does have a bit of white noise in that background.
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[13:37:36] <alex ami> yes, that white noise is in audible in the room, too!
[13:38:21] <t c> Slide 4: Key Information Elements
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[13:47:43] <t c> can you hear the cahir from webex?
[13:47:51] <t c> Slide 5: Important Conversations
[13:47:57] <t c> *the chair
[13:48:12] <Adam Montville> If at some point we are confident in the meetecho audio, we can revert to using it exclusively.
[13:48:39] <t c> it seems up again now...
[13:49:09] <Andrew Feren> meetecho has been working for me once we got past the initial audio trouble.
[13:52:18] <alex ami> glad to hear that, Andrew
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[13:55:04] <Lisa Lorenzin> Up next are myself & Steve Venema presenting the TNC-based information model: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-sacm-4.ppt
[13:59:44] <t c> Presentation is over
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[14:05:31] <t c> Slide 7: Coordination Challenge
[14:05:36] <t c> Slide 8: ICS Security Challenge
[14:07:12] <t c> Slide 9: Security Automation with IF-MAP
[14:07:59] <t c> Slide 10: Communication Challenge
[14:08:05] <t c> Slide 11: How IF-MAP Solves the Problem
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[14:08:53] <t c> Slide 12: IF-MAP Facilitates ICS Security
[14:10:12] <t c> Slide 13: In Production Today
[14:10:15] <t c> Slide 14: Properties of Security Coordination
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[14:14:09] <David Waltermire> Any questions so far from anyone participating remotely?
[14:14:21] <t c> Slide 15: IF-MAP
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[14:21:39] <t c> Slide 16: What Is Security Metadata?
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[14:24:39] <t c> Slide 17: Network Security Metadata
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[14:27:41] <t c> Slide 18: Real-time Security Coordination
[14:28:47] <t c> Slide 19: SACM Information Model
[14:28:51] <t c> Slide 20: Graph Models
[14:31:11] <t c> Slide 21: Graph Models
[14:32:23] <t c> Slide 22: SACM Graph Model
[14:33:14] <t c> Slide 23: Elements
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[14:37:25] <t c> Slide 24: Operations
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[14:38:30] <t c> Slide 25: Considerations – "Known Knowns"
[14:43:32] <t c> Slide 26: Considerations – "Known
[14:43:43] <t c> Slide 25: Considerations – "Known Knowns"
[14:44:47] <t c> Slide 26: Considerations – "Known
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[14:49:18] <t c> Slide 27: Extensibility - "Unknown
[14:50:09] <t c> Slide 28: SACM Usage Scenario
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[14:53:33] <t c> Presentation is over
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[14:54:06] <Adam Montville> Do we need the WEbex audio any longer?
[14:54:37] <Adam Montville> If not I would like to hang up my phone :-)
[14:55:18] <Adam Montville> Put another way: Is anyone using WebEx to listen?
[14:56:19] <Adam Montville> Going once…
[14:56:44] <Adam Montville> Going twice…
[14:57:14] <David Waltermire> Can we disable his video to increase the audio bandwidth?
[14:58:06] <Andrew Feren> +1
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