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mcr has set the subject to: TEEP BOF. Chicago IETF 98. March 28, 2017. Trusted Execution Environment Protocol.
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[05:27:23] synp has set the subject to: Trusted Execution Environment Protocol (TEEP) BOF - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-teep/
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[05:32:22] <synp> Hi, I will be your Jabber scribe. If you are remote and want something relayed to the room microphone, please prefix it with "mic:"
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[05:33:46] <synp> Dave is presenting some chair slides (Currently Note Well)
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[05:35:04] <Bjorn Hjelm> Ok, thanks.
[05:35:12] <synp> Chair slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-teep-chairs-logistics-slides/
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[05:35:24] <synp> Now looking at slide 4: Agenda
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[05:36:03] <synp> Problem Statement: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-teep-problem-statement/
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[05:43:39] <=JeffH> another use case might be provisioning a webauthn TEE-based authenticator
[05:44:59] <synp> *** Are the video streams working now?
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[05:50:02] <synp> Lucas: tnx
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[05:52:10] <synp> Reminder: I am your Jabber scribe. If you are remote and want something relayed to the room microphone, please prefix it with "mic:"
[05:52:47] <synp> Now taking questions about the problem statement.  Charter discussion is later
[05:53:00] <synp> Erik Nordmark
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[05:56:17] <David Wheeler> mic: this is based ont he TEE, and will be communicated by the attestation (Dave from Intel)
[05:56:26] <synp> Hannes Tschofenig
[05:56:36] <synp> @David: I'm in line
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[06:01:15] <synp> David: So I'm not relaying on the mic
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[06:06:32] <synp> "I am a walking deadline"  or Henk
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[06:10:49] <synp> Moving on to the charter discussion: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-teep-charter-discussion/
[06:11:27] <synp> But we're not looking at the slides. We're looking at Notepad with the proposed charter
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[06:11:41] <kathleen.moriarty> Charter review, discussion will come later
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[06:15:58] <Mike StJohns> can we please ban 5 point text please?
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[06:16:19] <synp> Henk
[06:17:05] <synp> Mike: I don't think Notepad allows you to select a font.
[06:17:25] <Mike StJohns> format -> font
[06:17:37] <synp> But text editor and projector don't mix (well)
[06:17:40] <synp> Now looking at the slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-teep-charter-discussion/
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[06:29:27] <resnick> Hannes has not convinced me. While it is certain that apps don’t have boot code (in Hannes’s sense of that word), many pieces of firmware contain much more than just low-level boot code.
[06:30:08] <synp> Pete: Are you in the room?
[06:30:28] <resnick> I am.
[06:30:33] <synp> Spencer
[06:30:37] <resnick> Just commenting on something not worth it for the mic.
[06:30:44] <synp> OK
[06:30:48] <=JeffH> Hannes is perhaps focusing on constrained devices…
[06:31:10] <synp> ??? from Symantec
[06:31:30] <resnick> @jeff: Agreed. SUIT did not seem to be limiting itself to such constrained devices.
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[06:47:35] <hildjj> "Joe Hildebrand" (sorry I didn't have my badge out)
[06:48:03] <synp> Sorry.
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[06:57:03] <synp> I don't think any of this is even remotely close to showing consensus
[06:57:13] <synp> (and yes, I know hums don't ever show consensus)
[06:57:26] <synp> (but they can be suggestive of existing consensus)
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[06:59:27] <synp> And we're done.
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