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[04:00:19] <phb> Is this working?
[04:00:55] <Meetecho> just as a FYI for remote attendees, if you have any issue with remote audio or video, just mention us and we'll be automatically alerted so that we can look into it
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[04:31:34] <Gorry Fairhurst> I'm OK to add text that says "try" to shed flows rather than packets (in the case of reducing, rather than terminating).
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[04:48:54] <phb> mic: looks to me that there is a protocol problem here that is fairly straightforward - how to log binary objects. And a complex research project, what to do with the logged data.
[04:51:39] <Martin Stiemerling> phb: sorry didn'T see this, still acrual the comment?
[04:51:52] <Martin Stiemerling> actual...
[04:56:21] <phb> mic what I would want from DNSSEC CT is to enroll the credentials and nothing else. I want to protect myself from attack by my DNS registrar or registry.
[04:57:12] <Martin Stiemerling> DNS? this is not about dns
[04:57:40] <Martin Stiemerling> this is the tsvwg jabber room
[04:57:58] <phb> @#(@$#(*$!!!
[04:58:04] <phb> thought I was in TRANS
[04:58:10] <Martin Stiemerling> no problem! :)
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[05:03:17] <cameron byrne> It is very strange to me that this I-D is proposing communicating with a middle box without anyone from the middle box space saying they want to listen to this magic number.
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[05:03:48] <Martin Stiemerling> at the mic
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[05:04:39] <Gorry Fairhurst> Mic: If the packet is in tunnel it's not visible; so when is this more visible than the dst port?
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[05:15:13] <Gorry Fairhurst> -- +1 to Mirja - we should be careful what is made visible. (not to MIc)
[05:15:31] <Martin Stiemerling> aok
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[05:26:40] <Gorry Fairhurst> ...or an IANA registry of magic numbers? (is that silly)
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[05:28:47] <hildjj> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options&submit=draft
[05:30:24] <Aaron Falk> Gorry: isn't that what IANA is?
[05:30:35] <Gorry Fairhurst> MIc As far as I recakkUDP-Lite started its life the same as this.
[05:30:42] <Gorry Fairhurst> :-)
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[05:32:44] <Gorry Fairhurst> Len  in UDP is the length of UDP "Data" - not the datagram size
[05:33:31] <Gorry Fairhurst> You checksum the on the UDP-Len. That's what UDP-Lite does.
[05:34:35] <hildjj> gorry: yes, that's what i was trying to say.
[05:35:27] <Gorry Fairhurst> Mic:  We have been doing experiments with this, and will continue (as a way to deploy UDP-LIte) Joe also has data
[05:35:52] <Gorry Fairhurst> ... I seem to have lost audio now.
[05:36:35] <Aaron Falk> I believe if you say Meetecho they wake up
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[05:36:45] <Meetecho> we do :)
[05:36:50] <Aaron Falk> meetecho: we seem to have an audio problem
[05:37:02] <Aaron Falk> :)
[05:37:11] <Meetecho> audio seems fine, we're monitoring it
[05:37:22] <Meetecho> it may be an issue with Gorry, but he just left so we can't check
[05:37:27] <Meetecho> waiting for him to come back
[05:37:30] <Aaron Falk> ok
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[05:38:01] <Meetecho> Gorry Fairhurst: is audio still an issue?
[05:38:07] <Meetecho> it looked fine on our end
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[05:39:49] <Randell Jesup> Amused by "end to end is dead".....  though I'm not pushing back on this topic
[05:40:21] <Aaron Falk> End to end has been dead for a while.  Encryption appears to be bringing it back.
[05:40:29] <Randell Jesup> audio has been fine for me all along...
[05:41:20] <Gorry Fairhurst> Audio back now (could have been a network problem)
[05:41:42] <Randell Jesup> Note I'm coming from an rtcweb perspective (with e2e encryption)
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