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[13:09:13] <stpeter> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/urnbis/minutes
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[13:13:06] <barryleiba> Crowded in here.
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[13:28:26] <Klensin> FWIW, I've got no audio from either of my two ISPs. "Player can't find file"
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[13:39:17] <stpeter> Klensin: we had problems with audio in the previous WG session, too
[13:39:31] <stpeter> (sorry, was up and down to the mic)
[13:39:40] <stpeter> SM: do you have audio?
[13:39:50] <SM> No :-(
[13:40:10] <Klensin> Ducky. Thx for update - I'll just watch the Etherpad (until it crashes :-( )
[13:40:20] <stpeter> hmph
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[13:40:32] <SM> John will be reviewing the RPS soon :-)
[13:49:25] <Klensin> @SM: oh, yeah. Actually have running notes in process to give Paul a daily update. @Peter: the announcement said to complain to ietf-streaming@verilan.com about audio problems. I sent a note to them and copies the NOC>
[14:05:55] <Klensin> Mic: Juha, sure. But that learning doesn't happen by magic and the two communities aren't good at talking with each other. Want to see if we can slip a formal briefing on this work, from a tech community perspective, onto the TC46 agenda? Want to schedule a presentation from TC46 on the bibliographic perspective into Vancouver (either as part of this WG session but widely advertised or trying to negotiate plenary time with the IAB). I understand you know the relevant TC 46 SC Chair :-)
[14:07:47] <stpeter> Klensin: will relay
[14:11:18] <Klensin> Peter: THose namespace registrants look at the URN spec and either decide that they can fit into it or not. If they can, they are happy, we are happy, and we don't need their participation (although confirmation would be godd). If they can't, they either ignore the spec (bad) or come looking for revisionss (e.g., the bibliographic folks). We also need to recognize that the bibliographic folks have a small advantage over most of the other namespace folks and the IETF --several centuries of experience creating and using reference identifiers -- so they do, and should, get some special consideration, at least to the extent of their being willing to help us think broadly about the problem space.
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[14:12:58] <Klensin> Mic: Juha. The model of "finish in IETF, then introduce into TC46" has some obvious advantages. But one can't simultaneously adopt that model and talk about the advantages of the two communities talking and working with each other.
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