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Re: [Ace] Adoption of Low Latency Group Communication Security Work in ACE

"Rahman, Akbar" <Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com> Wed, 20 July 2016 15:00 UTC

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>at the ACE meeting today I asked the participants whether they are in
>favor of adding low latency group communication security work in the
>ACE group.

+1.


>If you haven't been at the meeting please contribute your thoughts here
>on the list. If you believe you do not have enough information please
>also speak up.

My extra input is that whatever is done should also try to enhance the security functionality of CoAP Group Communication [RFC 7390] as described in:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7390#section-5


Best Regards,


Akbar


-----Original Message-----
From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Smith, Ned
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 10:48 AM
To: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; Ace@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Ace] Adoption of Low Latency Group Communication Security Work in ACE

Agree with the direction toward group communication. This roughly aligns with goals of <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hardjono-ace-fluffy/> which is inclusive of group key management for symmetric. Fluffy has broader key management goals, but symmetric group key management is a great place to start.

It also aligns with directions the OCF are heading as they see value in the use of group keys for doing secure discovery.

Ned Smith
Principal IoT Security Architect
Intel SSG-OTC
Ned.smith@intel.com
+1.503.712.3695




On 7/20/16, 3:07 AM, "Hannes Tschofenig" <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>at the ACE meeting today I asked the participants whether they are in
>favor of adding low latency group communication security work in the
>ACE group.
>
>20 persons were in favor of doing the work.
>
>5 people argued against doing this work.
>
>If you haven't been at the meeting please contribute your thoughts here
>on the list. If you believe you do not have enough information please
>also speak up.
>
>Ciao
>Hannes
>

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