Re: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what services?
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@cisco.com> Wed, 24 January 2007 15:21 UTC
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Jaimin Pancholi wrote: > Some thoughts: > > I think first we should list the services we need to address as part of this > forum ! Right. The proposed charter identifies four. We can expand this to more later, but I think we need to start with a small number of the highest priority services, and demonstrate that we can usefully solve the problem. Then we can move on to more. > > After which we can divide them based on the Network Entity who need to > support the same. > i.e. some services can work by UA supporting it, Some services can work by > Server supporting it. Right, this is one of the things which leads to interop problems - different solutions for who implements what. As I alluded to in my previous message, there are a few ways one can solve this. One way is to standardize a single approach. Another way, as I suggested in my note, is to allow variation but require some of the participants to support more than one mechanism to support variation in the capabilities of the others. The third is to demonstrate that you can still interoperate successfully even when all of the entities do the service differently. This is why the key part of working on each of these services is to have a section in the document for each that is an EXHAUSTIVE enumeration of the various ways in which the feature has been implemented, so we can figure out what the right path is to take for that feature. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Cisco Fellow Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 Cisco Systems jdrosen@cisco.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ BLISS mailing list BLISS@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss
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- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Göran Eriksson AP (KI/EAB)
- Re: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Miguel Garcia
- [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what services? Jonathan Rosenberg
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- Re: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Alan Johnston
- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Francois Audet
- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Dolly, Martin C, ALABS
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- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Mohammad Al-Taraireh (maltarai)
- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Sunil Veluvali
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- RE: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Jaimin Pancholi
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- Re: [BLISS] Welcome! Main question - what service… Jonathan Rosenberg
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