Re: [dns-privacy] More WGLC reviews for TLS Profiles draft?

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 13 December 2016 15:45 UTC

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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 03:22:50PM +0000,
 Sara Dickinson <sara@sinodun.com> wrote 
 a message of 51 lines which said:

> > I'm still a bit concerned about the issue of detection (that there
> > is an attack). Detection for passive attacks is only possible if
> > there is a prior history, unlike the detection for active attacks,

...

> I was trying to indicate that simply using clear text is essentially
> the same as an attack because the traffic _can_ be subject to
> passive eavesdropping.

OK (a bit far-fetched but OK).

> Would it help to replace the “N, D” labels in the table with just
> “N” and update the text to say “N == no protection, may be subject
> to attack”

IMHO, no, since, in some cases, there is really the possibility of a
detection, for instance if a server was doing encryption before and
now refuses, you may suspect an attack (or a downgrade of the
server...)