Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt]
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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt]
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----- Original Message ----- > From: "sthaug@nethelp.no" <sthaug@nethelp.no> > To: despres.remi@laposte.net > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013 1:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt] > >> With these specifications, it is impossible on a SLAAC link that two hosts > that have universal-scope addresses (necessarily different if they communicate > at the MAC layer), would have conflicting IIDs at the IP layer if they derive > them from MAC addresses. > > Impossible if the MAC addresses are indeed unique. That is correct for > *almost* all cases. But not 100%. So I emailed HD Moore, who did the research which produced this slide, showing volumes of duplicate MAC addresses by vendor. https://speakerdeck.com/hdm/derbycon-2012-the-wild-west?slide=64 I asked him if he would be able sent me some info on the number of occurrences of duplication by MAC address. He sent me quite a bit of information, which I'll need to ask him how much he is willing for me to publish publicly. However, I'm confident that he'd be ok with the following. Here is the top 10 list of occurrences of individual MAC addresses: - 6987574 - 829787 - 787661 - 347282 - 292288 - 112580 - 95484 - 60295 - 60254 - 60125 Yes, that first number is 6 million. This information was gleaned from NetBIOS Name Service information accessible over the Internet, so it is a subset of the possible actual numbers of duplicate MAC addresses. > > Steinar Haug, AS 2116 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
- [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Mark Smith
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian Haberman
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Ray Hunter
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… sthaug
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug… Mark Smith
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Randy Bush
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… sthaug
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Jmh.direct
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Doug Barton
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Ole Troan
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Randy Bush
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Doug Barton
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… sthaug
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [6MAN] Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… Warren Kumari
- Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the gen… Rémi Després
- Re: [6MAN] Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Doug Barton
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Mark Smith
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Mark Smith
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Rémi Després
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Ole Troan
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Rémi Després
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- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Rémi Després
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Roland Bless
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- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Ole Troan
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- Re: Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from… Ray Hunter
- Re: Keeping the 4rd-range issue separate from the… Doug Barton
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Doug Barton
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Roland Bless
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Randy Bush
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Rémi Després
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Usman Latif
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.… Miya Kohno (mkohno)
- RFC 6144 to be listed as updating RFC 4291 Rémi Després
- RFC 6164 to be listed as updating RFC 4291 Brian E Carpenter
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- RE: RFC 6164 to be listed as updating RFC 4291 George, Wes
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