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Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 15 November 2012 07:46 UTC
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FYI -- someone bounced my e-mail to a draft.all address based upon SPF. Not sure if this is a problem with their MTA or the tools forwarding setup... Cheers, Begin forwarded message: > From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@grenache.tools.ietf.org> > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > Date: 15 November 2012 6:44:25 PM AEDT > To: mnot@mnot.net > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > peter@akayla.com > (generated from draft-ietf-pkix-est.all@tools.ietf.org) > SMTP error from remote mail server after DATA: > host smtp.secureserver.net [72.167.238.201]: 550 5.7.1 SPF unauthorized mail is prohibited. > kent@bbn.com > (generated from draft-ietf-pkix-est.all@tools.ietf.org) > SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: > host dfw-gate.raytheon.com [199.46.199.195]: 550 5.7.1 Sender ID/SPF failed from IP 77.72.230.30 for PRA mnot@mnot.net, please forward to the email administrators for mnot.net or have them contact postmaster@raytheon.com > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: <mnot@mnot.net> > Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net ([216.86.168.183]:19948) > by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) > (Exim 4.77) > (envelope-from <mnot@mnot.net>) > id 1TYu7O-00029N-Ap > for draft-ietf-pkix-est.all@tools.ietf.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:44:11 +0100 > Received: from [192.168.1.64] (unknown [118.209.81.233]) > (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) > (No client certificate requested) > by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2618F509B5; > Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:44:04 -0500 (EST) > From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:44:20 +1100 > Message-Id: <060AEB60-8E59-4AB2-A178-5874BE36AF71@mnot.net> > Cc: Apps Discuss <discuss@apps.ietf.org> > To: draft-ietf-pkix-est.all@tools.ietf.org > Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) > X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 216.86.168.183 > X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: draft-ietf-pkix-est.all@tools.ietf.org > X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mnot@mnot.net > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on > grenache.tools.ietf.org > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS, > SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 > Subject: APPDIR review of draft-ietf-pkix-est-03 > X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) > X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on grenache.tools.ietf.org) > Resent-To: dharkins@arubanetworks.com, kent@bbn.com,, peter@akayla.com, pritikin@cisco.com, stefan@aaa-sec.com > > I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer for = > this draft (for background on appsdir, please see = > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate = > ). > > Document: draft-ietf-pkix-est-03 > Title: Enrollment over Secure Transport > Reviewer: Mark Nottingham > Review Date: 15-Nov-2012 > > Summary: This draft is not ready for publication as a Proposed Standard = > and should be revised before publication. > > Major Issues:=20 > > As written, this draft violates BCP56, "On the use of HTTP as a = > Substrate:" > >> 2. New protocols - including but not limited to those using HTTP - >> should not attempt to circumvent users' firewall policies, >> particularly by masquerading as existing protocols. >> "Substantially new services" should not reuse existing ports. >> =20 >> 3. In general, new protocols or services should not reuse http: or >> other URL schemes. > > > While there has been longstanding discussion about obsoleting BCP56, = > because it's acknowledged that HTTP is useful for other protocols, that = > document has not yet been published.=20 > > However, when it is, it's very likely to embody the intent behind = > RFC5785 -- that the HTTP URI namespace of hosts is under their = > individual control, and that standards ought not impinge upon it in any = > way, except in the limited ways described by that document. > > In other words, IETF standards should not define URIs or patterns of = > URIs, because servers may wish to provide other services (implying the = > possibility of collision), or deploy resources in an alternate way, for = > implementation or operational reasons.=20 > > This is a fundamental concept in the Web architecture; see = > <http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/>.=20 > > Possible remedies include: > > 1) Specifying a "home document" format that links (in the RFC5988 sense) = > to the various resources as appropriate.=20 > 2) Specifying a well-known URI to root the interaction. Note that this = > is suboptimal; while it avoids collisions, it does not allow alternate = > deployments, or multiple deployments on the same host. > > Regards, > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
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