3 Wednesday Plenary

Thursday Plenary

Current Meeting Report

IETF Operations and Administration Plenary

(Edited from notes by Mirjam Kuehne)

Welcome (Brian Carpenter)

NOC report (Wieslaw Blysz, Siemens Networks) (see slides)
Host presentation (Georg Haubs, CTO Innovations of Siemens Networks) (see slides)
  Siemens (Georg Haubs and Max Riegel) was presented with a commemorative plaque.

IETF Chair and IAD short reports (see slides)
  Leslie, Brian and the IETF thank Joyce Reynolds for her involvement
  and effort in the IETF (as IANA and RFC Editor staff, as User services AD).
  She gets an award and standing ovations. Joyce is very honored and thanks 
  the community. "It has been a lovely ride", she says.

Jonathan B. Postel award (see slides)
  For the first time, two people were chosen to get the award:
  Bob Braden and Joyce Reynolds for their stewardship of the RFC series.

  The two previous meeting hosts in 2006 were also presented 
  with a commemorative plaque:
  Nokia (Jonne Soininen) and Ericsson (Ole Viktorsson)

NomCom Chair (Andrew Lange) (see slides)

Open Microphone

IESG on stage, IAOC available in the room.

Joel Jaeggli: Question directed to the IAOC: it is his understanding
that tools that are being paid for; will there be an open bid process in
the future?

Ray Pelletier: working with Neustar for support service and will listen to their
proposals. If we are not satisfied with the proposal we will open it up.

Brian Carpenter: Maybe tools have to be integrated with the existing
tools. There will be a significant learning curve if third parties
would be involved. We will be looking into open source as well, but we 
are not quite there yet.

Leslie Daigle: Good point. Will be added to future considerations.

Lucy Lynch: Tools were always to be negotiated in a second contract.

Brian: One of the tools is a mechanism for meta-data interchange
between tools. This will make it easier to de-couple tools in the future.

Phill Hallam-Baker: More concerned about a situation where you could not
move the secretariat contract and where the secretariat would be only
people knowing about the tools. We do not want to be captured by the
vendor.

Brian: Right, that is why we are interested in the meta-data tool.
On the other hand, we also do not want to make it un-attractive to
be a service provider for the IETF

???: How much of the meeting expenses are there to support remote/online
participation? How much is spent on jabber, streaming etc. to support
people who are not at the meeting?

Brian: Everything that could be done online should be done online; not
sure how this can be refleected in the budget. Yes, remote
participation should certainly be supported.

Sam Hartman: Another consideration is that the better we make the 
online particpation, the more the meeting. revenue will go down.

Joel: The audio streaming volunteers have cost 2000 - 4000 USD per
meeting.

Tony Hansen: Thanks for the bus shuttle service to the gas light
district

Eric Rescorla: Is wondering about the IPR status of the recording of
the sessions.

Brian: Open item in the Trust. Will take this up with the lawyer.

Lucy: Is this a participatory process or does everyone owns the words
they say? She is participating in the IETF because she believes this
is a participatory process.

Harald Alvestrand: IPR WG is the right place to discuss what the IETF should 
do about this.

Scott Bradner: There is a difference between the contribution of the
content of someone saying something at the microphone and the
agreement of being recorded.

Despite an explicit request by the IETF Chair, there were no
questions for the IESG!

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Slides

Agenda and Reports
NOC Report
Host presentation - Siemens Networks
Postel award
Nomcom Status